Hate to tell you this guys, but all those $5000 safes are good for about 4 minutes against one of these:
http://www.google.com/products/cata...ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCsQ8wIwAw#ps-sellers
They cut 1/4" mild steel like plywood and generate NO heat, and plug into your regular 15A 120v outlet.
3/4" plate slows it down to a crawl, but a safe door would still only be in the 5-8 minute range for full access (if you could find one with a 300# door that you could afford).
It's not even overly loud either. If I were on the other side of the law, I'd use it.
The liberty ones sold at lowes, and the stack-on crap sold all over - those things are so thin I would have trouble making cutting the entire face off one last more than a minute.
Hiding the guns is your best bet. You only need a lock to keep the kids out. Pro's will defeat your safe if they can find it.
Making them difficult to locate, and a long distance to travel to the escape areas of the house are your best defenses. IMO
http://www.google.com/products/cata...ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCsQ8wIwAw#ps-sellers
They cut 1/4" mild steel like plywood and generate NO heat, and plug into your regular 15A 120v outlet.
3/4" plate slows it down to a crawl, but a safe door would still only be in the 5-8 minute range for full access (if you could find one with a 300# door that you could afford).
It's not even overly loud either. If I were on the other side of the law, I'd use it.
The liberty ones sold at lowes, and the stack-on crap sold all over - those things are so thin I would have trouble making cutting the entire face off one last more than a minute.
Hiding the guns is your best bet. You only need a lock to keep the kids out. Pro's will defeat your safe if they can find it.
Making them difficult to locate, and a long distance to travel to the escape areas of the house are your best defenses. IMO