Clip VS Magazine
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To all,
I'm all for using terms and language correctly. I try to enlighten people about the terms "bullet", "cartridge", "shell", etc..... sometimes to no avail.
Just to show how bad it is, recently I walked into our local military surplus store (a fairly big one) and politely asked the counter person where they kept magazines. She pointed to the periodicals rack at the end of a counter. I smiled and said, "I mean rifle & pistol magazines". She gave me a puzzled expression and glanced back at the rack where you could plainly see such rags as "Guns & Ammo", "Shotgun News", and others. I had to carefully explain that a magazine was a "thingie that holds cartridges and fits into a rifle or a pistol". She still couldn't grasp the concept. She had to call the store manager over so I could ask him the question. Seems the mags were kept in a display case just the other side of the counter where this gal worked, about 3 feet from where she was standing when I asked her.
You would think that, working in a store that deals in such items, the sales personel would at least know what the items they are selling are called, even if they don't understand individual details or particulars.
From this I can only conclude that the store management doesn't feel the issue is important enough to even educate their people about the interchangable usage of terms or even about what merchandise they are in the business of marketing.
I don't know what response I would have gotten had I thought to ask for "clips". It never occured to me to use that term.
Best to all,
Swampy
I'm all for using terms and language correctly. I try to enlighten people about the terms "bullet", "cartridge", "shell", etc..... sometimes to no avail.
Just to show how bad it is, recently I walked into our local military surplus store (a fairly big one) and politely asked the counter person where they kept magazines. She pointed to the periodicals rack at the end of a counter. I smiled and said, "I mean rifle & pistol magazines". She gave me a puzzled expression and glanced back at the rack where you could plainly see such rags as "Guns & Ammo", "Shotgun News", and others. I had to carefully explain that a magazine was a "thingie that holds cartridges and fits into a rifle or a pistol". She still couldn't grasp the concept. She had to call the store manager over so I could ask him the question. Seems the mags were kept in a display case just the other side of the counter where this gal worked, about 3 feet from where she was standing when I asked her.
You would think that, working in a store that deals in such items, the sales personel would at least know what the items they are selling are called, even if they don't understand individual details or particulars.
From this I can only conclude that the store management doesn't feel the issue is important enough to even educate their people about the interchangable usage of terms or even about what merchandise they are in the business of marketing.
I don't know what response I would have gotten had I thought to ask for "clips". It never occured to me to use that term.
Best to all,
Swampy
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt VDW:
In another generation we'll be sticking doo-hickies into thingamajigs, and shortly after that we'll simply grunt at each other as we roll around in our own filth.
Sigh...
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Now that was funny.Feel....self....getting....simpler...grunt.. grunt...grunt...
In another generation we'll be sticking doo-hickies into thingamajigs, and shortly after that we'll simply grunt at each other as we roll around in our own filth.
Sigh...
[/quote]Now that was funny.
Feel....self....getting....simpler...grunt.. grunt...grunt...Hi, guys,
DorGunR, 7.62 ammo was commonly issued in 5-round stripper clips, in bandoliers. Magazines were either loaded off the gun with a little adapter that fit over the magazine and into which the clips fitted, or could be loaded on the gun with the clips. That funny looking thing on top of the receiver is the clip guide.
Russell 92, "clip" is a perfectly good term, when applied to the right item, even if you don't own any guns that use clips.
Matt VDW, I have heard a revolver cylinder referred to as a cylindrical magazine, but it doesn't have a spring and follower. I said not everything fits the general definition.
Jim
DorGunR, 7.62 ammo was commonly issued in 5-round stripper clips, in bandoliers. Magazines were either loaded off the gun with a little adapter that fit over the magazine and into which the clips fitted, or could be loaded on the gun with the clips. That funny looking thing on top of the receiver is the clip guide.
Russell 92, "clip" is a perfectly good term, when applied to the right item, even if you don't own any guns that use clips.
Matt VDW, I have heard a revolver cylinder referred to as a cylindrical magazine, but it doesn't have a spring and follower. I said not everything fits the general definition.
Jim
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by motorep: FUD, I've always simplified it this way- a magazine has moving parts, a clip doesn't. My .02.[/quote] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrBlonde:
A "magazine" contains the bullets in it. A "clip" holds the bullets by the rim into kind of a track.[/quote]Best definitions that I have heard. It helps when you can clearly define the differences. Thanks everyone, FUD.
A "magazine" contains the bullets in it. A "clip" holds the bullets by the rim into kind of a track.[/quote]Best definitions that I have heard. It helps when you can clearly define the differences. Thanks everyone, FUD.
Want to have even more fun? Ask the obvious bafoons who refer to Magazines as clips if they carry with a round chambered or at battery and see what glazed looks you get.
It has been my experience that these type of "shooters" have a thumbnail grip on firearms terminology. Some show interest in learning proper applications, some believe that Ballistics only refer to what rockets do!
Amusing yet frustrating!
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44Spec
It has been my experience that these type of "shooters" have a thumbnail grip on firearms terminology. Some show interest in learning proper applications, some believe that Ballistics only refer to what rockets do!
Amusing yet frustrating!
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44Spec
johnnybravo
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt VDW:
A clip is a device that holds rounds of ammo together to facilitate their insertion into a firearm or its magazine
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So this means a revolver speedloader is a clip...?
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johnnyb
A slow hit beats a fast miss.
A clip is a device that holds rounds of ammo together to facilitate their insertion into a firearm or its magazine
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So this means a revolver speedloader is a clip...?
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johnnyb
A slow hit beats a fast miss.
> So this means a revolver speedloader is a clip...?
Yes, according to my definition, even though it doesn't sound right. Typically a clip consists of one or two pieces of metal into which the rounds must be pressed. Rounds drop into and out of a speedloader without any "clipping" action, so my definition is an awkward fit.
Yes, according to my definition, even though it doesn't sound right. Typically a clip consists of one or two pieces of metal into which the rounds must be pressed. Rounds drop into and out of a speedloader without any "clipping" action, so my definition is an awkward fit.