Clint's pistol in Gran Torino?
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I want to the see that movie for sure but I can wait til it comes out on DVD or on pay per view. I don't care about going to movie theater.
You guys remember the old Starsky and Hutch? If I recall the drove a red and white Gran Torino. Heck I must be getting old, beacause that was a long time ago when Starsky and Hutch were on.
You guys remember the old Starsky and Hutch? If I recall the drove a red and white Gran Torino. Heck I must be getting old, beacause that was a long time ago when Starsky and Hutch were on.
I was watching the Barrett-Jackson car auction on Speed TV over the weekend, and a '73 Gran Torino fastback came up for auction. It didn't get nearly the attention that a Cobra Jet Mustang would, but I wonder if the bidding was a bit higher than would otherwise be the case, because of the movie? I think it sold for $30,000? I never used to really like that fastback body style, but have a greater appreciation for it, now.
Clint's a good director but...
The movie is a finely made piece of liberal propaganda. It's essentially the same western formula laid down on a complex topic (multiculturalism) with an ending that doesn't avoid easy romanticism because it defies the expected.
Bitter old white men and sanitized Hmong do not profound drama make.
The movie is a finely made piece of liberal propaganda. It's essentially the same western formula laid down on a complex topic (multiculturalism) with an ending that doesn't avoid easy romanticism because it defies the expected.
Bitter old white men and sanitized Hmong do not profound drama make.
Dan K. Evans
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Another great movie.. "Defiance"
I saw the new movie "Defiance" - Jews fighting along with Russians aganist the Germans (WWII). It appears that the Jewish group were using the Mosin Nagant 91/30. Some rifles seemed to have a straight pull bolt, not seen in the Mosin Nagant. If you have seen the movie let me know if you recognize the weapons. I realize the rifles are "props" but more often than not, in movies of this quality, they attempt to use period rifles. Great movie!Thanks.
I saw the new movie "Defiance" - Jews fighting along with Russians aganist the Germans (WWII). It appears that the Jewish group were using the Mosin Nagant 91/30. Some rifles seemed to have a straight pull bolt, not seen in the Mosin Nagant. If you have seen the movie let me know if you recognize the weapons. I realize the rifles are "props" but more often than not, in movies of this quality, they attempt to use period rifles. Great movie!Thanks.
Do NOT read if you haven't seen movie yet!
I hate to say it because I generally love Clint Eastwood's work, but I have to agree with this:
"The movie is a finely made piece of liberal propaganda. It's essentially the same western formula laid down on a complex topic (multiculturalism) with an ending that doesn't avoid easy romanticism because it defies the expected."
The expectation that our "criminal justice system" would actually deliver justice to those criminals is, well, an interesting notion. I would much prefer a "High Plains Drifter" ending even if it were predictable.
I hate to say it because I generally love Clint Eastwood's work, but I have to agree with this:
"The movie is a finely made piece of liberal propaganda. It's essentially the same western formula laid down on a complex topic (multiculturalism) with an ending that doesn't avoid easy romanticism because it defies the expected."
The expectation that our "criminal justice system" would actually deliver justice to those criminals is, well, an interesting notion. I would much prefer a "High Plains Drifter" ending even if it were predictable.
I was not happy with the ending either....
is a much better movie than say The Gantlet or Pink Cadilac though....
The movie to me had the look of a fairly well made independent film... a few of the scenes did not flow well....
The end where all the gangbangers who shot the hell out of Clint (his choice) are handcuffed and kneeling out on the lawn does not work... how in the world did they get that way... I suppose once they realized they had screwed up and shot an unarmed man and all the neighbors had watched it they knew the show was over and just surrendered.....
is a much better movie than say The Gantlet or Pink Cadilac though....
The movie to me had the look of a fairly well made independent film... a few of the scenes did not flow well....
The end where all the gangbangers who shot the hell out of Clint (his choice) are handcuffed and kneeling out on the lawn does not work... how in the world did they get that way... I suppose once they realized they had screwed up and shot an unarmed man and all the neighbors had watched it they knew the show was over and just surrendered.....
Judicial system
I had a problem with the ending too. Clint's thinking he wants to protect his "adopted" kids and he's on the way out anyway, so getting killed may be useful. Maybe he knew something about the legal system in Detroit I don't. A conviction and a significant sentence for those gangbangers is far from a "lock". In my opionion there was another solution that would have been more congruent with his cynical, realistic character.
I had a problem with the ending too. Clint's thinking he wants to protect his "adopted" kids and he's on the way out anyway, so getting killed may be useful. Maybe he knew something about the legal system in Detroit I don't. A conviction and a significant sentence for those gangbangers is far from a "lock". In my opionion there was another solution that would have been more congruent with his cynical, realistic character.
I thought it was a Colt M1911 military issue... I liked the way Clint ended the film. It makes sense to an old codger like me who would rather sacrifice himself than ruin a young life. This movie wasn't about the old grouchy man or the gang, it was about the boy and his sister.
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dabigguns357
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I saw the movie to and it was good,there is many truths to his situation and what happens daily in many cities.There are more people that will do nothing then complain about every thing around them thats wrong.
My grandfather purchased his 1911A1 at the end of WW2. He was a bomber pilot and the Army Air Corp sold it to him for $20.00. He hasn't fired it since 1945, but it's in great condition. He's an engineer and respects tools and machines.
He has told me that when his time comes it goes to my dad and me.
The impression I get from WW2 is the taking home of weapons depended largely on individual commanding officers. Also there was many a rifle, handgun, shotgun that was "discharged" when it's respective servicemember recieved his marching orders.
He has told me that when his time comes it goes to my dad and me.
The impression I get from WW2 is the taking home of weapons depended largely on individual commanding officers. Also there was many a rifle, handgun, shotgun that was "discharged" when it's respective servicemember recieved his marching orders.
I guess you will see what you want to. I saw a movie that was brilliant. It showed a man whos total outlook on life had changed due to experiences that he never thought would occur. It showed a bitter old man realizing that he was the reason for his distance with his children and for his feelings against other people.
I guess you will see what you want to. I saw a movie that was brilliant. It showed a man whos total outlook on life had changed due to experiences that he never thought would occur. It showed a bitter old man realizing that he was the reason for his distance with his children and for his feelings against other people.
I didn't see it that way. I saw a man of good inner values, who lost the ability to communicate with others except for his abrasive, defensive methods. Even with the priest, his barber buddy, and others, he was a rascal, to say the least. However, the Hmong neighbors, who appealed to his inner values of obedience, respect of elders, politeness, etc, cracked through his crusty veneer and brought out the good guy inside. When he said, "I have more in common with this family than I do my own," he was saying that they, unlike the modern man, shared his core values.
I don't think he "changed," I think they just triggered his frequency.
I didn't see it that way. I saw a man of good inner values, who lost the ability to communicate with others except for his abrasive, defensive methods. Even with the priest, his barber buddy, and others, he was a rascal, to say the least. However, the Hmong neighbors, who appealed to his inner values of obedience, respect of elders, politeness, etc, cracked through his crusty veneer and brought out the good guy inside. When he said, "I have more in common with this family than I do my own," he was saying that they, unlike the modern man, shared his core values.
I don't think he "changed," I think they just triggered his frequency.
Lost Sheep
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Meaning of the movie, "Gran Torino"?
To my mind, it was a morality play, plain and simple.
A bitter, estranged man finds redemption by sacrificing himself for something bigger than himself.
Plus
It was also a swan song on two levels. Rumor has it that this is Eastwood's final movie.
Lost Sheep
To my mind, it was a morality play, plain and simple.
A bitter, estranged man finds redemption by sacrificing himself for something bigger than himself.
Plus
It was also a swan song on two levels. Rumor has it that this is Eastwood's final movie.
Lost Sheep
Lost Sheep
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The guns-What was the last date of use of the M1A Garand?
I assumed the .45 was G.I. all the way, but it did look awfully blued, where I would have expected Parkerized. It appeared to have a flat top as well.
On the other gun, the clip clearly identified the rifle as an M1A Garand, but I have no idea when the switch from the MA1 to the M14 took place. I have also always been a little confused about the model designations M1A, M1A1, M-14, M1 Carbine, even.
So, when were M1A Garands used in Korea, or last used by the military and could a typical soldier (was Eastwood's character a Marine or Army?) have taken one home? I don't think the rifle or pistol were stolen from the Army, as the confession seemed as if such an act would have been included.
Lost Sheep
I assumed the .45 was G.I. all the way, but it did look awfully blued, where I would have expected Parkerized. It appeared to have a flat top as well.
On the other gun, the clip clearly identified the rifle as an M1A Garand, but I have no idea when the switch from the MA1 to the M14 took place. I have also always been a little confused about the model designations M1A, M1A1, M-14, M1 Carbine, even.
So, when were M1A Garands used in Korea, or last used by the military and could a typical soldier (was Eastwood's character a Marine or Army?) have taken one home? I don't think the rifle or pistol were stolen from the Army, as the confession seemed as if such an act would have been included.
Lost Sheep