"clean" gun design

I was eye balling a savage 99 in 243 the other day, and Im wishing I would have gotten it. I ve always thought they were clean, ill just say good looking and working rifle. Even though I have several bolt guns Ive never warmed up to them as others. I even have some bolt guns I want get rid of either.
 
I like clean lines too. Would much rather see a .22 rifle with a tube feed than a dinky magazine sticking out underneath.
 
Now your talking. Ive been working on some project guns Ive aquired. All old beat up 22s with tube mags.A malin 81 pre WW2. A savage 987. And now Im working on a marlin 60. Love them 22s
 
clean lines/sleek lines

Here are some of my favorites:

Rifles- Win M88, Savage 99, Rem 14 and 141, M1 Garand, Ruger tube feed
.44 carbine

Shotguns: Win M12, Win 42, straight combed doubles w/ minimal forearms

Handguns: Walther PPK, Sig 230, Luger P08, Colt Python, Smith N's with
tapered barrels, M27, 28, 25 etc
 
Clean lines? Mauser Model B, Winchester Model 70, Ruger 77, Sauer 200, Winchester Model 21, Merkel O/U, Browning Superposed, P35/BHP, Walther PPK, Colt Python.
 
I guess I fall into the catagory of prefering a clean rifle, i am glad the craze has gone tacticle, The type of old rifle I like becomes cheaper. :D
 
So, the Ultralights have a legitimate niche- that of the seasoned citizen? OK, I'll buy that..... no ...... no, I won't:
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So because you don't like ultralights or don't need one you don't think they are legit?

LOL, you can deny it if you want to, but that isn't reality. The niche of the ultralights is proven and legitimate.

If he shoots it much, I'm sure there will be an orthopedic surgeon involved in there somewheres..... and then his bank account will cry bloody murder, and the gunsmith will lose some business......
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Who says a gun has to be shot much? There are plenty of hunters with guns like the ones you like that put less than a half dozen rounds down range every year. They may verify the zero just before hunting season starts and if the zero is good, then only fire enough rounds to bag their quarry and then the rifle is put away for another year.
 
Who says a gun has to be shot much? There are plenty of hunters with guns like the ones you like that put less than a half dozen rounds down range every year. They may verify the zero just before hunting season starts and if the zero is good, then only fire enough rounds to bag their quarry and then the rifle is put away for another year.

Double Naught Spy
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Exactly!
 
I'm 65 and I finally had to get rid of my swing set. However, I do believe you can have a nice rifle with fine lines even with a protruding magazine and I'm only thinking of military rifles and carbines. Here are a few examples.

The Lee Enfield Mark I carbine was in use before the SMLE was adopted. It had particularly fine lines, I think, even with a protruding magazine. But the magazine only held six or seven rounds and was not charger loading. The bolt handle was exceptionally flat, too, the whole thing being designed to fit in a saddle boot or scabbard. I've never owned one.

I did own a Lee-Enfield No. 5, the Jungle Carbine. It has the closest look to a sporting rifle of any military weapon but it does have that protruding magazine. But the way it looks isn't bad, especially when compared to the flat bottom box of the Indian made 7.62 SMLE. A few other rifles have protruding magazines like the Mannlichers but I still think the Lee-Enfields better for looks. An SKS carbine not only has a protruding magazine but everything about the thing looks odd. The magazine is way too far forward and the barrel and gas tube is upside down but I don't suppose looks were high on the list of objectives.

Another one I have owned was a Mosin-Nagant M1938 carbine. I will quickly admit that all I've seen in person had a very workmanlike finish but except for the straight bolt handle, I thought the lines were very sleek. Somehow the similiar but ultra-rare Finnish carbines (and not too common rifles) lack the same sleekness because of the pistol grip. That's only my opinion, you understand.
 
There is one good reason for having a detatchable magazine that protrudes from the stock, so you can grab it!

I have a 5rnd mag for my M1A, and that thing is a real bear to get out, being flush with the stock when locked in. The 10rnd mag is much more friendly that way.

I'm one of the old guys who dislikes guns covered in rails. I even pass on new pistols with a rail in the front frame. No use to me, except something to hurt my hands on.
 
There is one good reason for having a detatchable magazine that protrudes from the stock, so you can grab it!

I have a 5rnd mag for my M1A, and that thing is a real bear to get out, being flush with the stock when locked in. The 10rnd mag is much more friendly that way.

I'm one of the old guys who dislikes guns covered in rails. I even pass on new pistols with a rail in the front frame. No use to me, except something to hurt my hands on.
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I am partial to revolvers and lever actions (Plumbernator that is a pretty rifle, my 1894 is my favorite :D). I also would like to get an AR-15 one day as i like the "tactical" weapons as well. What bothers me is rails where you don't need them. I might be missing something but does there need to be full length rails on all 4 sides of the forward grip?. A rail where optics should go, and maybe front half of the grip for a bi-pod or something. Maybe i just don't think grabbing a weaver rail s comfy lol.

EDIT: 44 AMP I think i intended too respond to what you said but them rambled on that's why i quoted you lol.
 
There is one good reason for having a detatchable magazine that protrudes from the stock, so you can grab it!
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I'm not so sure... a Thompson sub machine gun just doesn't look right if it doesn't have a big magazine on it. I don't really care if its the round one or the stick. With out it, its just not right.
 
Somewhere before I got too old to carry heavy guns there was a point some were too heavy to carry properly. Brush hunting to me means hands on carry, all day long. A tackdriver ain't worth squat if it is gun slung on the shoulder at the wrong time

+1 on the flush magazine, or better yet blind internal like Savage with no cold magazine at the center of carry.... and make it light.
 
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