Classic Lee Loader with a Semi-Auto

Can I use a Classic Lee Loader with a 92FS?

  • Yeah, it will work ok (most of the time).

    Votes: 11 57.9%

  • No, it's a waste of time.

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .
Too bad the shot shell ones are long out of production
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i can show you the kit I made myself for shotshells if you want. 12g are easier, as there is no resizing, etc. My shells come out nicely with just a few bits and pieces.
 
Ferretdog said:
Given the scoop is a static size, it doesn't really matter what measurement unit is used for that size - it just is what it is. It is either the right size (in which case who cares what the unit it) or it's not (ditto).
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Volumetric measurements are problematic for powders. And really should only be used for liquids.
 
FWIW; I used dippers, both Lee and home made for quite a while and occasionally now when I'm just reloading a few. With some powders (W231) I can hold about .1 variation when I'm on a roll, the key being to do the same thing every time; same speed, same method, same way I hold my tongue. With some powders (IMR 4064) my repeatability ain't so hot, but I don't often go over .3 gr.. If I concentrate and comfortable and am rolling along, consistent charges aren't no big challenge. Of course I weigh every charge I dip...

Jes wonderin', if volume powder measuring/charging is superior, why is every reloading manual I've seen list their powder charges by weight? :D
 
Some powders work well with the dippers.

IME, flake powders do not. I've had one really bad experience with Unique in 9mm.....


Long extruded powders don't work really great, either, but it can be done, provided you do the same thing every time. I have done many pounds of 4064 with dippers.

Ball powders work best with the dippers, IME.
 
mikld said:
Jes wonderin', if volume powder measuring/charging is superior, why is every reloading manual I've seen list their powder charges by weight? :D
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Superior is subjective. As I eluded to, automated throws use volumetric measurement quite effectively (for most powders.) If one needs moderately accurate throws and speed, volumetric measure is superior. If one needs the gnat's @$$ each time, weighing the charge is going to be superior.
 
As for space, I live on a yacht.
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Get the Lee handloader. It is not awkward at all. I use it with a powder measure clamped to a plastic cutting board. The whole set-up is "laptop". It is soo convenient, I rarely touch my O frame or turret presses. The Hand press does FULL LENGTH SIZING. You use a regular sizing die.

if volume powder measuring/charging is superior, why is every reloading manual I've seen list their powder charges by weight?
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The energy in the load is determined by weight of the powder. Volume measure is used as a close proxy for weight, and yields satisfactory (close enough) results YOU have been using for years. If you seriously have to ask that question, you should not be reloading. Weighing every charge precisely takes more time, and at some accuracy point (lets say 1/10 of a grain), is a waste.

Can I use a Classic Lee Loader with a 92FS?
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No. You need to use 92FS magazines.
 
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I started with a Lee Loader-38 Special. Biggest drawback-aside from the slowness and the chance of setting of a primer-yes, I did it-is they neck size only.
If space is at a premium I would get either the Lee or Lyman Hand Press. Lets you use regular carbide dies for full length resizing.
 
Damn, guys- the Lee Loader full length resizes 9mm!
Years ago when I used one, I bought a nifty little hand primer seater that worked very well. You have to do each operation in batches-decap, resize, prime, etc.
 
LBussy said:
How, exactly, do you think traditional powder throws work?
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And that is why we get charge variance. But that is also why we verify it with a scale, and if we are looking to get that list 1% of accuracy we weigh all our charges out.
 
All powder measures work by volume. They always have.
Yes, when you change powders you need to adjust how you measure that volume so that it matches the weight you're after, as different powders have different densities. Just as you always have. Black powders have different densities by grade too, so this isn't new.
Whether it's a metric or Imperial measure is irrelevant. A "20 grain" volume of one powder is not a 20 grain of another, so why would it matter if your spoon was metric?
 
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Get the Lee Hand Press instead.
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+1.

I have a pair of them and often load on camping trips or while shooting .....load development at the range, or in the middle of a prairie dog town....... while camping, we have done an assembly line kind of deal around a picnic table ...... "Many hands make light work."
 
Lee Hand Press

I have a pair of them and often load on camping trips or while shooting
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This is even easier if you have cases prepped and primed before hand. Then, you are only powder charging, placing the bullet and, work the hand press seating the bullet and remove loaded round. Also very easy to adjust your powder charge for work up.
HAND PRESS COMES WITH QUICK CHANGE BUSHING 1/4 TURN AND ITS OUT.
 
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This is even easier if you have cases prepped and primed before hand.
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Actually, delegating case prep and even priming to the children that are so eager to shoot up the ammo is easier...... nearly effortless, in fact. Set up the sizing die, and set them to work! Stand there, supervise, QC ..... easy!
 
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