LloydXmas250
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Saw this at Cabela's yesterday. Seemed like a fun little gun but I've read bad things about Chiappa who manufactures the gun. Anyone here have one or has spent time with one. What do you think about it? Worth owning?
Citadel M1 Carbine .22 LR
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These rifle were just recently introduced. There may not be much experience yet with them. I saw my fist one today at a gunshow. Seemed like a solid, very close representation of a real M1. Pretty cool little rifle. Wish I had $400 to drop just to test it out. Guess we'll have to wait and see what the reviews are.
LloydXmas250
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I've looked at getting a 10/22 and then putting an m1 stock on it. Could be fun as well but this would be cheaper in the long run.
jimmythegeek
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There are mostly positive reviews
I'm not sure I will get around to one. I have a few .22lr rifles already, and am planning on a S&W m&p15-22, and a Marlin 39a mountie. So that's about as much room in the gun safe as I can spare. I have two real carbines.
I'm not sure I will get around to one. I have a few .22lr rifles already, and am planning on a S&W m&p15-22, and a Marlin 39a mountie. So that's about as much room in the gun safe as I can spare. I have two real carbines.
Jason_G said:
LloydXmas250 said:
Like this?
http://www.shootersdiscount.com/cart/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=1529
A buddy also has a stick mag for his 10/22 that is pretty close to the carbine mag. Next time I talk to him, I'll ask when/where he got it.
Citadel M1-22 Carbine
So I had been intrigued since these first came out in 2012 or so.
I have a shooter GI M1 carbine that I bought about 20 years ago. I haven't shot it in five years or so, and one of my projects this summer is to get out and get some trigger time with it.
I have .22 equivalents or conversion units for many of my handguns and rifles and so I was potentially interested in the Citadel carbine. I finally saw one for sale on the rack at my local gunstore last Friday. They had one with the black synthetic stock and one with a wooden stock, and I got the synthetic.
This gun is actually made by Chiappa in Italy and they have an iffy reputation for quality control. That being said, so far I think I like this gun.
The manual says that it runs best with .22LR ammo that is 1200fps or faster.
I have quite an assortment of .22 ammo on hand, but so far I have only tried two kinds -- Federal LRN at 1200 fps and CCI Mini Mag HPs at 1230 fps. The rifle functioned with both but clearly liked the Mini Mags better.
I cleaned it and lubed it before I shot it and again before the second trip to the range. (I lubed it with "Snake Oil" that I got from Dillon Precision which I have found to be a pretty good lube although a little thin for some applications)
The rear sight is not the most robust sight I have ever seen but I think it will work for what I need. The magazines hold 10 rounds. If the mags are loaded with 9 or 10 rounds the last round usually doesn't feed, but as the gun and magazines get broken in I think that issue will take care of itself. When loaded with 8 rounds and using the Mini Mags the gun reliably locked open after the last round was fired.
So I had been intrigued since these first came out in 2012 or so.
I have a shooter GI M1 carbine that I bought about 20 years ago. I haven't shot it in five years or so, and one of my projects this summer is to get out and get some trigger time with it.
I have .22 equivalents or conversion units for many of my handguns and rifles and so I was potentially interested in the Citadel carbine. I finally saw one for sale on the rack at my local gunstore last Friday. They had one with the black synthetic stock and one with a wooden stock, and I got the synthetic.
This gun is actually made by Chiappa in Italy and they have an iffy reputation for quality control. That being said, so far I think I like this gun.
The manual says that it runs best with .22LR ammo that is 1200fps or faster.
I have quite an assortment of .22 ammo on hand, but so far I have only tried two kinds -- Federal LRN at 1200 fps and CCI Mini Mag HPs at 1230 fps. The rifle functioned with both but clearly liked the Mini Mags better.
I cleaned it and lubed it before I shot it and again before the second trip to the range. (I lubed it with "Snake Oil" that I got from Dillon Precision which I have found to be a pretty good lube although a little thin for some applications)
The rear sight is not the most robust sight I have ever seen but I think it will work for what I need. The magazines hold 10 rounds. If the mags are loaded with 9 or 10 rounds the last round usually doesn't feed, but as the gun and magazines get broken in I think that issue will take care of itself. When loaded with 8 rounds and using the Mini Mags the gun reliably locked open after the last round was fired.
The ruger carbine. I wonder if they will sell the stock seperately?
http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/specSheets/21102.html#
http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/specSheets/21102.html#
johnwilliamson062
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How many chips did you find in the action when you cleaned it after your first outing? Mine had all kinds of shavings. I'd say the rear sight is plastic junk. It actually grouped quite well off the bench all things considered. Ran the bulk federal I put through it without issue.
Once the weather warms I'll try to put a few more rounds through it and see what happens.
Once the weather warms I'll try to put a few more rounds through it and see what happens.
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Citadel M1-22 carbine
So I shot further with the Citadel carbine and determined that the front sight blade was crooked. (The front sight is plastic)
So I ordered a couple of new ones. The front sight blade in the new sights looked straight. I was able to install a new one in about 90 seconds, using a really small hex wrench to loosen the set screw.
The rear sight is not the most durable thing ever made but it's serviceable.
One of the indoor ranges I shoot on has spooky lighting with some shadows. It's not a problem when shooting on tan IPSC targets with a Glock 22 with big sights, but it was kind of a problem with the sights on this gun.
The gun definitely runs better with plated bullets of higher velocity.
I bought the Citadel carbine as a plinker and I think it will work fine in that application.
So I shot further with the Citadel carbine and determined that the front sight blade was crooked. (The front sight is plastic)
So I ordered a couple of new ones. The front sight blade in the new sights looked straight. I was able to install a new one in about 90 seconds, using a really small hex wrench to loosen the set screw.
The rear sight is not the most durable thing ever made but it's serviceable.
One of the indoor ranges I shoot on has spooky lighting with some shadows. It's not a problem when shooting on tan IPSC targets with a Glock 22 with big sights, but it was kind of a problem with the sights on this gun.
The gun definitely runs better with plated bullets of higher velocity.
I bought the Citadel carbine as a plinker and I think it will work fine in that application.
I ordered one with the wood stock a couple weeks ago and it should be here next week. At the price it's not a huge gamble for a .22 plinker that looks and operates a lot like the Carbine. I've never owned a Chiappa but read many horror stories. I have heard the recent ones are pretty good, early production problems have largely been ironed out. I hope!
Nice looking rifle SaxonPig! Hope mine works as well as yours.
Nice looking rifle SaxonPig! Hope mine works as well as yours.
My Citadel M1-22 finally came in today, took about 4 weeks. The wood stock is dark but that kind of adds a semi-authentic look, old wood soaked in oil, etc. Really, it looks better than expected. Not too bad at all. Now to see if it shoots well, anyway for only $230 it's worth the gamble.
This one is new old stock, the rifle was made in 2013 and the box was marked Legacy Sports, though Legacy hasn't distributed this rifle for a couple years.
One magazine follower snagged often but taking it apart and smoothing out some rough areas solved the problem. A tan repro sling looks nice on it. Yeah, I'm happy with it so far.
This one is new old stock, the rifle was made in 2013 and the box was marked Legacy Sports, though Legacy hasn't distributed this rifle for a couple years.
One magazine follower snagged often but taking it apart and smoothing out some rough areas solved the problem. A tan repro sling looks nice on it. Yeah, I'm happy with it so far.