Choice between 3 semi-autos.

Which 1st Handgun?

  • CZ 75b Mil

    Votes: 76 80.9%

  • CZ 40b

    Votes: 6 6.4%

  • IMI Baby Eagle

    Votes: 12 12.8%
  • Total voters
    94
Oris,
A bit of a misunderstanding. Nowhere did I claim that the Eagle was better BECAUSE it had a decocker. I was just pointing out to Daedalus the differences between the two pistols.

Just so we understand each other. I own four autos without decockers. Two, my CZ-75B, & EAA Witness 10mm are traditional exposed hammer S/A-D/A. I have no problem carrying either one "cocked & locked", but personally will not manually drop the hammer with one in the pipe. The other two are S/A Only Stricker fired. A HS2000, and an early AMT Backup. Both have 1911 style grip safeties & a secondary safety. Again, I have no problem carrying either one of these "cocked & locked".

So, as you can see, a decocker is not a prerequisite for any of my purchases.
 
CZ not a good gun?

Somebody needs to come down off of their Walther power trip. Just because a gun does not cost x-number of dollars does not put it in the "not a good gun" category. CZ's are of very good quality, I'll take a CZ over a Beretta any day, thats from experience of having the Beretta as my issued sidearm as an Air Force MP. I shoot the CZ a hell of a lot better than any Beretta I have shot, to include the Border Marshall my brother used to own. As for the IMI Baby Eagle not being a good gun, I doubt that also. While I have never shot one, I have inspected and handled them, and they look to be well made. They also see a lot of use with the Israeli Defense Forces and police. With the conditions over there is no room for a pistol that is of not quality manufacture or reliability. We all tend to get caught up in what "We like" and brand loyalty. So from the proven use of the Baby Eagle and the use of the CZ in the militaries and national police forces of some 60 or 70 countries, I think you will be well served by whatever you choose. Phew!! Sorry for the rant. :)
 
Which One?

I'm going to add to the Baby Eagle story here. Great gun for the money and it shot great right out of the box. Mine came with two 16 round mags when I bought it and CDNN carries spares for it.
To me a decocker is a nice feature but I don't have to have it.
If you decide on the BE I don't believe you will regret it. ;)
 
If you didn't read above, I got the CZ!

And last night I skipped class to shoot it. :p I put 200 rounds of some cheap range ammo through it with out a problem. Well, actually I had a very minor problem. The 10 round mag is bobo. Once it popped loose after the 1st shot. But it never happened again. The 15 rounder is a dream. All in all, this is my favorite gun that I have shot. And I shoot it better than any other gun I have shot. My only complaints. The lame 10 round mag, and the turkey grips (ewwwwwwwwwwww!). The grips get slippery after shooting for a while. The CZ is also a lot louder than I expected it to be. But I like that :D. If any of you were wondering, here is the ranking of all the guns I shot. Remember this is purely my opinion.

1. CZ 75b 9mm
2. Beretta Elite II .40
3. Ruger P89
4. Colt 1911
5. CZ 83
6. HK USP Compact .40
7. Ruger GP-100
8. S&W .44mag (it had a factory compensator)
9. Walter P99 .40
10. Sig P239
11. Glock 17
12. Glock 23

I'm very happy with my desision.
 
Comfort wise, the CZ-75 is the closest you can get to the Browning P-35. While the Baby Eagle is a clone, it's too much weight for the package. The trigger on the Baby Eagle is horrible when compared to the CZ-75.

The only real competition in the choice is the CZ-40. Like stated by S. Ewing, if you want a .40, get a CZ-75 in .40.
 
Daedalus, I think you will be happy with the CZ its a hell of a gun,in fact it's the best thing to have come from the other side of the iron curtin! But I just don't kown about this stuff of rating the 1911 #4 lol! :p Stay safe>
 
Congrats!
I just bought one myself.
very good shooter.
now to get a drop free spring and standard grips.
oh yeah and a few more hi caps!
 
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