Chipotle, Target and now Ikea
- Thread starter gyvel
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Really? Seriously?
Soo..finding 50-60 bodies at a time killed by gangs/cartels is LEGAL? I would have thought those murders were of the illegal variety....
Really, learn where the sarcasm smiley face is, and use it!
All the signs in the world don't stop determined people. Posting a "nogun" sign at a business is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to CYA by the business. Its a sad commentary on the state of things today that a business must put up a sign specifically saying "you may not..." or someone will try to hold them responsible when a third party breaks not just store rules but the law, as well.
The idea that not having a "nogun" sign somehow allows or encourages someone to criminally use a gun in their store is laughable on a common sense level, unfortunately, common sense things are often not recognized by the courts and lawyers.
If putting up a useless sign allows a business to get out of the "deep pockets" category in the eyes of a jury, then of course they are going to do it.
seeker_two
New member
Really? Seriously?
Soo..finding 50-60 bodies at a time killed by gangs/cartels is LEGAL? I would have thought those murders were of the illegal variety....
Really, learn where the sarcasm smiley face is, and use it!
All the signs in the world don't stop determined people. Posting a "nogun" sign at a business is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to CYA by the business. Its a sad commentary on the state of things today that a business must put up a sign specifically saying "you may not..." or someone will try to hold them responsible when a third party breaks not just store rules but the law, as well.
The idea that not having a "nogun" sign somehow allows or encourages someone to criminally use a gun in their store is laughable on a common sense level, unfortunately, common sense things are often not recognized by the courts and lawyers.
If putting up a useless sign allows a business to get out of the "deep pockets" category in the eyes of a jury, then of course they are going to do it.
Well said! This is why I'm glad that, in Texas, a "no gun" sign has to be worded and displayed in a specific way in order to have any legal standing. Many businesses put up a "gunbuster" sign just to keep the lawyers & insurers happy, but give legal CHL holders a wink....
Mike Irwin
Staff
To consider whether Mexico is "safer" or not, you also need to look at other crimes, such as kidnapping.
Kidnapping has reached epidemic proportions in Mexico. Worse, it no longer targets just the rich (many of whom have hired their own armed security), but everyone is now a target, including Americans...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/mexico-kidnapping/
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latin-america/250-or-you-die-kidnapping-goes-mass-market-mexico-n80751
How many kidnappings are there in Mexico these days?
"Some 1,700 kidnappings were reported across Mexico in 2013, nearly 10 percent of them in Morelos. Another 278 abductions were reported nationwide and 34 in Morelos in the first two months of this year, according to the government.
Analysts say as few as 1 in 5 abductions are ever reported, in part because victims’ families fear police agents are involved with the gangs."
Yeah, Mexico is a haven of placidity, safety, security, and calm.
Kidnapping has reached epidemic proportions in Mexico. Worse, it no longer targets just the rich (many of whom have hired their own armed security), but everyone is now a target, including Americans...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/mexico-kidnapping/
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latin-america/250-or-you-die-kidnapping-goes-mass-market-mexico-n80751
How many kidnappings are there in Mexico these days?
"Some 1,700 kidnappings were reported across Mexico in 2013, nearly 10 percent of them in Morelos. Another 278 abductions were reported nationwide and 34 in Morelos in the first two months of this year, according to the government.
Analysts say as few as 1 in 5 abductions are ever reported, in part because victims’ families fear police agents are involved with the gangs."
Yeah, Mexico is a haven of placidity, safety, security, and calm.
tony pasley
New member
After Target made their statement I wrote them a polite letter that I would be taking my business else where and included a receipt for what I had spent on the Sat. before which was over $300.00 that could have been spent at their store if they made better decisions.
Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
Ikea has always had signs up that say "Weapons-Free Zone." I remember because I always get a good chuckle out of that sign.
Interesting to see them apply it to law enforcement though. I can't imagine that works out well for them.
Interesting to see them apply it to law enforcement though. I can't imagine that works out well for them.