Chinese training Mexican army to disrupt US border?

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Okay, I know this sounds crazy, and if I hadn't heard it with my own ears, I'm not sure I'd believe that anyone ever said it, but.............................

Earlier today, a local radio talk program had a guest from a nearby Army base. After a discussion on several other topics, the guest brought up intelligence reports that the Chinese had troops in Mexico--disguised as Mexican troops--in order to train the Mexican military for operations to disrupt the border areas in the US as part of some future plan.

The discussion was focused on the need for our National Guard and Reserve troops to be patrolling our borders instead of being in Iraq; this is how the subject came up in the first place.

The guest went on to say that Vicente Fox is a Socialist with ties to China, Russia, and Cuba, and that Mexico maybe preparing for some operation against our Southern Border.

Again, if I hadn't heard this myself I never would have believed that such a thing is possible.

Has anyone else heard of this? The show is not a morning "shock jock" show and the guest was deadly serious.

Does anybody else have any info on this?
 
No! I know what you're referring to: Coast to Coast AM, a "fringe" show.

This is a local radio show run by the people who work at the radio station, and none of their guests are "professional" talk show guests.

I'm not sure what this guy does at the military base (I missed that part). I also missed the part where he may have told where he gets his information.
 
Anything is possible, however, I don't think it is likely.

What would be in it for Mexico? Really, they make a lot more from the US than any other country. War would just disrupt trade, cut of the flow of money. Increased trade with China couldn't hope to make up for the economic impact on Mexico.
When I look at a map, I see a lot of desert and a sizable river between the US and Mexico. Other than parts of Southern California, that is a lot of easily defensible terrain, with plenty of room for manuvering. Massed tactics wouldn't work so well with such a large kill zone.
So Vicente Fox is a Socialist. Get rid of that wierd and inaccurate idea of monolithic communism. People and countries are in it for themselves, not to propogate some political ideal. Our belief that monolithic communism was real did more to make natural enemies work together than any political idea would. It prolonged the Cold War for longer than it would have otherwise been.
Understand that we have ties to all the countries you listed besides Cuba. We have also had very strong ties to most of the small dictators and mass murdering regiemes of the last century. Money and politics make strange bedfellows.
We also have trained personel in may countries. It is not so unusual for a richer country to train others, even if it is not South American death squads that keep down democratic movements (not China, us). Also, if China were to train allies for combat operations, they would bring many to China. A Mexican in China would stick out as much as Chinese in Mexico, regardless of uniform.
As countries become more wealthy, they extend the diversity and reach of trade and diplomatic ties.
Was the source positive that it was Chinese government soldiers in Mexico? Drug trade is world wide, and Mexico is a good point of entry. Mexican government is not notorious for being clean.
Which is not to say that China isn't planning and thinking such things, just that Mexico would certainly want something for themselves. China cannot deliver such things at the present time.
 
Doesn't sound very likely, but there's at least one motive that makes sense.

Getting the Mexican army to create havoc along the border might give China a slight advantage if they were to try to retake Taiwan.
 
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Again, if I hadn't heard this myself I never would have believed that such a thing is possible.
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Well, remember, hearing it doesn't make it possible. Hearing it shouldn't make you believe it's possible either. ;) Anything man is capable of is possible. Thinking about this, though, the unlikely in politics has a way of coming about. When I think of all the outrageous things I've read in the papers or heard on the radio that came to pass ... it gives one pause. A Mexican gov't sponsored border op though, that's a little too outrageous. Then again, didn't I read about a truckload of Mexican regular troops booming across the border within the last few months? Was that ever verified?
 
Major Pita, have you asked yourself what the reason would be for the Chinese to be training the Mexican Army to 'disrupt' the US-Mexico border? Just what goal would be attained by border disruption? Just what knowledge would the Chinese have about disrupting the American border with Mexico?

"Disrupting" the border sounds really ominous. It is both vague in what would happen and specific in location, although the border is long. The connection is made by Fox with socialists and so you now have a full compliment paranoid mix of regurgitate that is completely without relevant facts or any sort of justification.

Often when things sound crazy, they probably are. So what if Vicente Fox has socialist ties. We do too! We have billions of trade and in corporate investments tied up in Russia, the various other republics of the former USSR, and with China. FYI, I don't think Russia is socialist anymore, not technically.

I have heard nuts on the radio, on TV, and in person, but I didn't believe most of them.
 
:rolleyes:

We all know that the Chinese are building tunnels under the US/Mexican border in order to smuggle cheap steel into the country.
 
Our military should have been patrolling our borders a long time ago whether this is true or not.
 
Nahh, we should just invade Mexico. Maybe Canada, too. The Russians are probably training them to invade North dakota.
 
Lak,

Our military should have been patrolling our borders a long time ago whether this is true or not.
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...'cause there's nothin' like garrison duty to blunt the tip of the spear. :)

How would you propose that the 24th Mechanized Infantry Division deal with Rio Grande Mark Spitzes? Would 25mm chaingun fire be adequate for punching through denim work shirts, or should they call in an MLRS strike just to keep the guys in DivArty in practice?
 
How would you propose that the 24th Mechanized Infantry Division deal with Rio Grande Mark Spitzes? Would 25mm chaingun fire be adequate for punching through denim work shirts, or should they call in an MLRS strike just to keep the guys in DivArty in practice?
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Whatever works.... :mad:

If our southern border is so porous that it lets in thousands of illegal aliens (of ALL nationalities--not just Mexican) & millions of tons of drugs, illegal guns, & counterfeit products, just what ELSE could get by "Homeland Security"....

...a "suitcase nuke"?....

...a few "true believers" infected w/ anthrax, smallpox, or the latest bioweapon?...

It's time to get serious about national security...esp. our borders. And the only way to stop the tide of illegal aliens is to make it too costly for them to attempt crossing that border. And if that means land mines, chain guns, and spilling the blood of aliens involved in criminal acts (hence the word ILLEGAL), I'm not opposed to getting a little dirty.... :cool:
 
seeker_two, and so our northern border is so well protected? NOT!!! We do a little better on the eastern and western borders, but only because there are oceans protecting us.

You have interesting views, but until it becomes a cap. offense to enter illegally, spilling blood simply for border breeching will remain illegal.

I know a lot of folks are against having our own military patrol our borders. They seem to fear the government and our military having power within the borders as it could be used against the lawful occupants, but personally I see no reason for us to be patrolling and protecting the borders of other nations without first patrolling out own.

I am told that our borders on all sides are continually watched by radar. Big deal. All that meant was that radar operators, civilian and military, simply watched as planes flew into the WTC, Pentagon, and crashes in Penn. We did so well that it was some 45 minutes after impact that the first 2 fighters arrived in New York. Just 2 and too late by a long shot. Depending on news accounts, either they were unarmed or not armed with any sort of missiles. In other words, just a presence.
 
Tamara,

From many of the reports I've read, and heard, many of them do not so much swim, as drive, ride or float across in various craft. Often laden with merchandise and some very well armed. Apparently the Mexican army (or people dressed and equipped like the Mexican army, federal police etc) have been playing this game now and then too - sometimes shooting at our Border Patrol. I would imagine that a sudden saturation of patrols along r suthun borda might also net other traffic that is comming across too.

So perhaps a Bradley (or three) might be good to have along - or at least on tap - as well as the suggested Apache or other flying machines.

While garrison duty is generally quite dull, active patrolling our borders might be somewhat busy - lively - and cover alot of ground. This in contrast to what many in the military consider the dull routine and other training exercizes. I know I always preferred operations with a purpose as opposed to the ORI and other games.

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"Our common border is no longer a line that divides us, but a region that unites our nations, reflecting our common aspirations, value and culture." - Secretary Colin L. Powell, Washington, DC - January 30, 2001
 
I have a rifle that was built for just this purpose in the GDR. Anyone who wants to borrow it is welcome to. The Zeiss-Jenar scope would make it easy to put a bullet into a border-crosser (at least that's what the Stasi intended it for; it's minute-of-fencehopper out to 500+ yards.)

I don't want to live in a country like that, and it frightens me that some of my fellow citizens do... :o
 
That can't possibly be the only thing that frightens you about your fellow American.
For me, it saddens more than frightens.
 
I have a rifle that was built for just this purpose in the GDR. Anyone who wants to borrow it is welcome to. The Zeiss-Jenar scope would make it easy to put a bullet into a border-crosser (at least that's what the Stasi intended it for; it's minute-of-fencehopper out to 500+ yards.)

I don't want to live in a country like that, and it frightens me that some of my fellow citizens do...
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Poor analogy. Those were designed to keep citizen IN...not to keep invaders--and we ARE talking about invaders--out.

However, the offer is appreciated... :cool:

And, if you're frightened by this sentiment, how will you feel when one of these "immigrants" detonates a suitcase nuke in Nashville when a sharp eye & a smooth trigger could have prevented their entry a thousand miles away?.... :(
 
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