Chimpanzee loads?

Watch the chimp grab the guys hands, as he attacks at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpj6exWtbBY

If you can pull 200 pounds through trees, like nothing, and hang in trees all day, think how strong the arms and hands are. If they grab you, it's like having a vice clamp down on your forearms, or hands. My understanding is they also 'lock' in place,

Used to know a world class powerlifter. He could deadlift 650 pounds.
Ron Morris:
http://www.usapl-ca.org/records/mensmaster1pl.html

We asked him if he'd ever been in a fight, since we were training for the Olympics in boxing. He said some thief tried to break in, and he caught the guy. The guy tried to hit him with a pipe. He grabbed the guys arms, and squeezed. He said he just keep squeezing until the guy stopped screaming, and moving, and tried not to break his forearm bones...

Chimps have that kind of strength in their arms, and, they know how to take advantage of it.
 
Thanks for all the thoughtful replies.

I hadn't thought of .223, but a lot of SWAT teams use them. So the consensus is that for something easily available on most police forces something like a .45, a .44 magnum or a .40 S&W would be about the minimum? How about a .357?

I visited the Yerkes primate lab a few years ago and was happy to see lots of steel protecting visitors, though in the actual lab itself there was closer contact between staff and younger chimps. I came to the conclusion that a two and a half year old baby chimp was as strong as most adult humans.
 
Pistols are handy, but weak.

Not enough penetration. Those super light bullet loads are designed to stop people, at close range, without penetrating through. I'll take a .308 based solution, like the 7.62 x 39 or 54r, or 30-06, with a 150-180 grain bullet. I want know doubt...
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I disagree. e.g. the Federal 62gr LE223T3 penetrates very well. And chimps aren't big. A .308 kicks too much and leaves me to little time between shots. Capacity is only 50% of what I could have in my 42rds AUG magazines.

I wouldn't trust a pistol. I carry them 24/7 but only as a tool to make way to my nearest longgun. Pistols are handy, but weak.
 
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I have NO problem shooting a .308 M1A as fast as I can pull the trigger on an AR 15. I will concede that most .308 semi-autos are a bit heavier then the AR's. AK 47 anyone?
 
How is it any different from self-defense against a person? You don't shoot just one time and then stop to look. This ain't a Hollywood movie. You shoot until the threat is obviously stopped. Just like Chairman Jeff always said. The reason for shooting in IDPA or with a stock gun in IPSC is to get your head straight for just this kind of situation. The only difference is the clothing. Chimps ain't got any. :D

Any law-enforcement handgun oughta suffice. Just don't think in terms of a one-shot kill, is all. Shoot until Bad Chimp quits moving.

If you have the time, sure, a rifle or shotgun is better. That holds true for people as well as chimps. Still, shoot until the problem is resolved. But the average fellow is not carrying a long gun as he walks or jogs past the chimp-lady's house in his evening constitutional.
 
I'd go with a 12 ga. with double O like our other friends are advocating, if time and occassion permit. If I face off with a wild chimp, I'd have to keep my wits and composure and if I'd have to shoot it, I'd shoot it with whatever I have on hand, usually a 9mm s&w 5904 or glock 17. I heard somewhere that an adult chimp has enough power to level a ufc fighter in less than 2 minutes. Chimps are wild animals and it's unfortunate what happened to that chimp and its owner. But what's important when faced with an angry one and you can't avoid it, draw and shoot. Center mass, which seems the easiest, and shoot til it's no longer a threat.
I remember my Dad telling me about a brave cop in the 60's here in Manila when a tiger busted loose from the Manila zoo and headed for the nearby FB Harrison fairgrounds (that sure emptied the area!). The only cop to go in and look for the big bengal cat was named Barbers and he went in armed with a Winchester model 12 riot gun loaded with 12 ga. with 00buck. When he heard the tiger growling from behind a booth he let go a shot, which hit the cat behind the plywood and made the tiger lurch up and then another which dropped the animal. Point is 2 hits of 00 that dropped a big bengal tiger are more than enough for a chimp, but composure and wits is also equally important.
 
Points real simple: Tiger, chimp, most wild animals get a claw, paw, or hand on you, and, it's OVER. I'll use what keeps the animal from grabbing me. Sub machine gun, double rifle, comes to mind...
 
I vote for the 577 T-rex... The ultimate chimp stopper.


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Go big or stay home
 
chimp load

What you need to remember is they don't have thumbs.
What you need is a single-action. That way if the chimp gets his hands on it he can't cock it.:p
Last thing you want is a chimp with a glock poping rounds off at you.
 
Peter Capstick told about his battles with baboons in a multi-part article in American Hunter called "The Killer Baboons of Vlakfontein."
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LOL, man, you know life is rough when there are killer baboons running around. :D

Shoot until Bad Chimp quits moving.
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That's awesome, Art! LOL. :D

My personal chimp gun is a 12 gauge.....'cause you never know when you'll be faced with a dangerous monkey in Nebraska. :D :D :D
 
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