Chimpanzee Attack

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Vanya said:
As others have noted in this thread, adult chimpanzees, especially males, are notoriously dangerous animals
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Thats so true Vanya and not only that they are, as has been previously noted, many times stronger than an adult human, carnivorous and have the ability to use weapons, such as sticks and clubs. Having my brains bashed in and/or testicles bitten of by an enraged 200 LB chimp is not a pleasant thought.

I'm of the opinion that in an enraged chimp attack situation, however unlikely that scenario may be, that the time for head shots would be at hand. Hope you are carrying at least a 9 mm and try and blow it's brains out the back of it's skull as quickly as possibly. Why you ask? Look what multiple chest shots from close range did in this situation, the animal could have easily continued the attack, or attacked someone else after it fled.
 
Quote:To be more productive - they also have more mitochrondia in their cells for extra energy according to a neuroscientist friend who works with primates

Wait, are you saying they are also Jedis?
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They are strong with the dark side of the Force.
 
The real problem is you can domesticate them, about 99.9999%, same with bears, tigers, some lions, female jaguars, snakes, feral cats, cheetahs, but, the one time they have an anxiety attack, loose their temper, even get scared by an unexpected noise, you, or someone else ends up dead, or severely injured.

So, your only real choice is to be constantly prepared for that inevitability, and, this lady was not.

Also, the ability to anticipate the animals potential triggers is vital. A more common, but still deadly example is my friend in Hawaii's pitbull. On the 4th of July, he had to be sedated, since the noise would really scare him, and, an otherwise loveable dog put his claws through my surfboard, covered with 5 layers of 6 oz glass, and a hot and gloss coat. That was WITH the drugs...before they kicked in.
 
Was this animal even 'fixed'?

My sister works with horses and has relayed stories of stallions biting and mauling people. You dont want to be picked up by the skin of your neck, I can tell you that much.
 
The real problem is that to have a domesticated animal, you have to get rid of the genetic traits that lead to the outbursts.
Just as in dog breeding, when you get a dangerous dog, you either do what the chimp did to that guy, or shoot it so the trait is out of the genetic line.

An example of what such a problem can be was a friends cow. She was frisky, mean, and had her own mind. She would try and run my friend over, break out of the pen, and, with a 1000 pound cow, you either have to shoot it, or use a CAR or truck, or maybe horse to get it back into it's pen.
 
Chimp is misleading. Call it an Ape and the perspective changes.

There is a difference between an animal shot for food while it is standing around and one enraged and attacking. This made me remember why my backup mags for my 10mm are loaded with DoubleTap 200gr XTP hollowpoints @ 1200fps...
 
Keeping a non-domesticated animal, especially a primate, as a house pet is just asking for trouble. Its just common sense.
 
The real problem is you can domesticate them, about 99.9999%
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The real problem is that to have a domesticated animal, you have to get rid of the genetic traits that lead to the outbursts.
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Exactly. It's worth clarifying this, because it's a distinction not everyone gets: we're talking about taming wild animals, here, not domesticating them. Domestication involves selective breeding, over many generations, to produce a strain of animals which are docile around humans, and reasonably easy to manage: e.g. cows, horses, dogs... With some species, say pigs & cats, it's debatable how "domesticated" they ever get; with others, reindeer, for example, it just doesn't take.

But it's never been done with chimpanzees; they're wild animals, which it's possible to tame if they're either bred in captivity or caught very young -- but they have nothing in their genetic makeup to make them tolerant of humans. They're social animals, and as infants, they depend on and are submissive to their caregivers, the same as any social mammal that takes a long time to reach maturity, but once they're grown, that's it -- can't trust 'em worth a damn.

Was this animal even 'fixed'?
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Good question. I'd bet not, given the way apes, in particular, are anthropomorphized... "Ooooh, we couldn't do that to darling Travis..."
 
Yes, it's hideous. The victim has been transferred to the Cleveland Clinic, where the first-ever face transplant in this country was done a couple of months ago.

It seems that in '04, in response to another incident involving "Travis," Connecticut actually passed a law prohibiting keeping primates larger than 50 lbs. as pets -- but "Travis" was sort of grandfathered in, and his owner was allowed to keep him. Bad decision, to put it mildly.

Might be time to close this one... not many more tactical lessons to be learned from this, IMO.
 
Vanya, you are so right. I kept hoping it would take a turn topic-ward, but alas, it was not to be.

Closed for thread drift.

One inappropriate joke removed. If it was yours, shame on you.

pax
 
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