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I live in Humboldt Park
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What area?

Isn't Humboldt Park considered an overall middle class area with some lower income areas mixed in as well?

Regardless, poverty is surely connected to crime. Crime/gangs/drugs have become a means of survival for many in the hood. They see it as the only possible way out. A way of life so to speak. Not even gonna get into the 'generation welfare attitude' that many have developed and how they have learned to trade groceries bought with their Welfare card for dope. Or buy the groceries with the card , sell em and use the cash to buy dope from the dope man so dope man can make the payment on that fancy car he's cruise'n. Then there's the gov't supplied cellphone that's been worked in the drug dealing mix as well.
All bought and paid for by your friendly working mans sweat. :mad:


That's not saying everyone that lives in the hood is a gangbanger,have no morals and looks to welfare as a way of life. There are very good people that live in the hood that absolutely hate what their neighborhood has become but either don't have the means to leave or have lived there all their life and just deal with things hoping for a change.

I know a bunch of em' on both sides of the fence.

I was fortunate to be able to get out and have never regretted living there as it surely was a learning experience in many aspects of my life.

Only wished many of these politicians and law makers had the opportunity to actually live in the hood for awhile rather then just driving through it with their bodyguards.

FYI... Mr. V.P. Biden , it's hard for me to CC a legal length shotgun while walking down to the neighborhood store but much easier for you to carry one in your guarded car as your racing through.
 
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shortwave said:
What area?

Isn't Humboldt park considered an overall middle class area with some lower income areas mixed in as well?
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This site has information on the various Chicago street gangs: http://www.chicagogangs.org/index.php?pr=Chicago_Gangs

In particular check out the Maps section, it shows the various gang territories with a Google Maps overlay. Humboldt Park is on the Northside map.

It's enlightening and depressing at the same time...
 
Thanks for the site AC.

What would be very interesting, knowing there's crime everywhere we go, is a site showing the crime stats. in poverty stricken areas versus crime rates in 'spotty' poverty stricken areas with a few middle class areas in the mix versus an all middle class area then an all upper class neighborhoods.

I know this might be hard to pinpoint as there are many areas that might have a few blocks of nothing but poverty stricken homes then a few blocks of nicer homes then more poverty stricken ones.

Don't know if Chicago offers this service, I would imagine it does but here in Ohio you can get crime stats for certain cities, counties, townships etc. but AFAIK, really can't break it down in smaller areas that are spotty.

Just for the sake of proving whether poverty has a direct affect on crime or not.

Having spent a few years living in a poverty stricken area, IMO, poverty DOES have a direct affect on crime and IS a major factor in crime rate.
And I don't get offended when someone makes a statement saying so.
 
The criminological studies have shown pretty clearly that poverty and lack of reasonable employment opportunities contribute to crime.

There really isn't a debate. Of course, that doesn't guarantee that poorer folk are all criminals or most don't try to better themselves.
 
I used to live an a neighborhood in south Minneapolis that I would describe as lower to working class. My wife and I were renting a converted attic in a house that overlooked the park. In the time that we lived there there had been a drive-by shooting down the block from us, a couple of people held up at gun point across the street, assaults in the park and even known cases of prostitution just a few blocks away. I can't really say who the criminals were but there has been known gang violence among Latino gangs recently.

So yes, I think there is a direct correlation between crime in my former neighborhood and the socio-economic status of it's residents. My current neighborhood is middle to upper class and it's one of the safest neighborhoods in Minneapolis. Plus, it helps that there are several ex-cops that live by me.
 
Armed Chicagoan wrote:
Chicago doesn't have a gun problem, Chicago has a gang problem.
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Well, yea, okay, but Chicago’s real problem is the voters that elect pinheads like Richard Daley and Rahm Emanuel that refuse to do anything about the gangs.
 
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