kudu, my friend, I agree with your post.
Negative "sells" , Media is in the business to make money, and sometimes report worthy news.
There is a reason training is constantly harped about. No matter what firearm, or task, sensory exclusions occur. This is why not only the shooter, those also participating are also trained in respective roles of ROs, SOs, participants, and observers.
Hunting is another firearm excercise that requires Training as stated above. Dogs for instance, they cannot cite the 4 Rules, so Hunters have to take the responsibilty. Orange vests and bell on collars "help" - these do assist in preventing accidents, the ultimate responsiblity is with the shotgunner.
180 rules and others are implemented for reasons. This was a most unfortunate accident, for all parties and for those of in shooting sports, even if one does hunt, or shoot shotguns.
28ga: Well some have "dismissed" this gauge. For those that do not know, that 28 ga is the most efficient gauge simply because of its payload to bore ratio.
The 28 ga has a "short shot string" meaning all them 3/4 of an oz of pellets arrive on target "at the same time" better than most other gauges and their payload.
28 ga. "dumps" a lot of energy at more of "the same time". For example some loadings have "long shot strings", this is why one "knows" they "were on", but the target flew through the "holes" of pattern.
Shooting a pattern board shows one what pattern density a particular load does out of a particular bore/ choke. You can forget about "reading" what a box of ammo "says" or a barrel/ choke "says". Pattern boards are the only way to know what a load does in that barrel/ choke at a certain distance.
Bob Brister shot moving pattern boards, these reveal even more of what a loading does than stationary pattern boards.
28 ga not only reveals itself and 3/4 oz on stationary pattern boards, does so on moving pattern boards, the highest scores in skeet are with a 28 ga, and hunters that use a 28 ga know how HARD game birds are hit. Within the ranges of which the 28 is designed for.
Yes the 3/4 oz load is better than the 1oz loading. Again payload to bore ratio. 1 oz loadings defeat the effectiveness of the 28 ga. Granted these 1oz are "okay" and again depends on a particular bore. choke...just history and such always gives the 3/4 oz the upper hand. You want 1oz , use a 12 ga.
The 28 ga [.540] equates to 54 caliber. .54 caliber has a proven history in war, and taking big game.
This is one reason I made my own 28 ga slugs back when. That is why Ballistic Products has components to make 28 ga slugs today.
All firearms are dangerous. WE have Rules and Standards for a Reason. We harp about training no matter the platform or task. Includes even BBGuns , to loading up popcorn kernals in .410 shotshells to rid the barn of pests...
One learns from mistakes - less painful and expensive if someone elses.
A wise person would examine this unfortuate incident, from get-go to how it plays out and apply to themselves.
Forget this "Us vs Them" crap. I have heard some supposedly responsible firearm owners that shoot other platforms or disciplines bash shotgunners and vice versa. Divided WE The People fall.
Media could learn some lessons as well.
My best wishes go out to all parties involved in this incident. My hopes are all us learn and examine our own selves.
It is always the intent of the user - not the tool.
The easiest way to build oneself up is to tear another person down.
Don't tell me folks do not get complacent, or in a hurry, or caught in the moment, forget to look behind their vehicle and back over a trash can, family pet, tricycle. Dont' tell me a Media van has not backed over or into something...
Not "intentional" instead an "accident".
So why don't we quit bashing - instead start hashing over OUR training with OUR shotguns for hunting, training for defense, clay games...??
Regards,
Steve
Whom not only appreciates the 28 ga., also has a lot of damn respect for one.
Negative "sells" , Media is in the business to make money, and sometimes report worthy news.
There is a reason training is constantly harped about. No matter what firearm, or task, sensory exclusions occur. This is why not only the shooter, those also participating are also trained in respective roles of ROs, SOs, participants, and observers.
Hunting is another firearm excercise that requires Training as stated above. Dogs for instance, they cannot cite the 4 Rules, so Hunters have to take the responsibilty. Orange vests and bell on collars "help" - these do assist in preventing accidents, the ultimate responsiblity is with the shotgunner.
180 rules and others are implemented for reasons. This was a most unfortunate accident, for all parties and for those of in shooting sports, even if one does hunt, or shoot shotguns.
28ga: Well some have "dismissed" this gauge. For those that do not know, that 28 ga is the most efficient gauge simply because of its payload to bore ratio.
The 28 ga has a "short shot string" meaning all them 3/4 of an oz of pellets arrive on target "at the same time" better than most other gauges and their payload.
28 ga. "dumps" a lot of energy at more of "the same time". For example some loadings have "long shot strings", this is why one "knows" they "were on", but the target flew through the "holes" of pattern.
Shooting a pattern board shows one what pattern density a particular load does out of a particular bore/ choke. You can forget about "reading" what a box of ammo "says" or a barrel/ choke "says". Pattern boards are the only way to know what a load does in that barrel/ choke at a certain distance.
Bob Brister shot moving pattern boards, these reveal even more of what a loading does than stationary pattern boards.
28 ga not only reveals itself and 3/4 oz on stationary pattern boards, does so on moving pattern boards, the highest scores in skeet are with a 28 ga, and hunters that use a 28 ga know how HARD game birds are hit. Within the ranges of which the 28 is designed for.
Yes the 3/4 oz load is better than the 1oz loading. Again payload to bore ratio. 1 oz loadings defeat the effectiveness of the 28 ga. Granted these 1oz are "okay" and again depends on a particular bore. choke...just history and such always gives the 3/4 oz the upper hand. You want 1oz , use a 12 ga.
The 28 ga [.540] equates to 54 caliber. .54 caliber has a proven history in war, and taking big game.
This is one reason I made my own 28 ga slugs back when. That is why Ballistic Products has components to make 28 ga slugs today.
All firearms are dangerous. WE have Rules and Standards for a Reason. We harp about training no matter the platform or task. Includes even BBGuns , to loading up popcorn kernals in .410 shotshells to rid the barn of pests...
One learns from mistakes - less painful and expensive if someone elses.
A wise person would examine this unfortuate incident, from get-go to how it plays out and apply to themselves.
Forget this "Us vs Them" crap. I have heard some supposedly responsible firearm owners that shoot other platforms or disciplines bash shotgunners and vice versa. Divided WE The People fall.
Media could learn some lessons as well.
My best wishes go out to all parties involved in this incident. My hopes are all us learn and examine our own selves.
It is always the intent of the user - not the tool.
The easiest way to build oneself up is to tear another person down.
Don't tell me folks do not get complacent, or in a hurry, or caught in the moment, forget to look behind their vehicle and back over a trash can, family pet, tricycle. Dont' tell me a Media van has not backed over or into something...
Not "intentional" instead an "accident".
So why don't we quit bashing - instead start hashing over OUR training with OUR shotguns for hunting, training for defense, clay games...??
Regards,
Steve
Whom not only appreciates the 28 ga., also has a lot of damn respect for one.
