ccw with out a holster
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+1 on a happy ending. The bad thing is it does reflect on all gun owners. I would like to know if he had the gun legally? If not they should throw his gut shot butt back in the slammer. Then maybe a "Chuby" Santa can visit him in his cell with a suprise
to go along with his SIBW.
to go along with his SIBW.vox rationis
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This is a weird version of pistolero political correctness
Of course some guns are more dangerous than others to carry Mexican Carry, and a Glock is one of those guns.
I carry a USPc. 99% of the time I carry it cocked and locked in a holster. Sometimes though, due to special circumstances, I'll Mexican Carry it, but DA and safety on.
For example last weekend I was carrying IWB on a 1 hour car ride, and it became uncomfortable at the 4 O'clock position in my bucket seats. Before starting the trip back home, I unholstered it, decocked it to DA and re-engaged the sweep down safety so that it was in DA and locked mode.
Then when I stuck it in my waist band, appendix carry, my thumb was over the hammer so if anything caught the heavy DA trigger, not only was the gun in DA and with safety on, but my thumb blocked any rearward movement of the hammer.
I would never ever ever ever do that with my Glock while it had a loaded chamber, full stop, end of story.
vox rationis
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Actually there was just a thread about this..essentially a gun with a relatively light trigger, no manual safety, and no hammer does not lend itself to sticking in one's waist band for Mexican Carry, for the obvious reasons.
One definitely needs a proper holster for a Glock in order to carry it safely with a round in the pipe. Just refer to that Platico Platixco incident, or whatever his name is. He was carrying Mexican Carry, the gun slipped down his pants, he grabbed it through his clothing and in the process activated the trigger, and Bammo! Glock Leg! Also refer to that recent gang banger that recently shot himself in the gut while carrying his chambered Glock in his pocket.
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MaxHeadSpace
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Gang-bangers and "stupid" . . . Don't get me started.
A colleague was telling me his LEO son noticed locally that gang shootouts typically result in superficial wounds and a lot of collateral damage. His suspicion is that they've never been formally trained in any sort of handgun marksmanship.
And so to "remedy" that he had proposed to the department and city council that they begin teaching basic handgun marksmanship so when these gang-bangers shoot each other it results in fatalities.
Reasons for a holster:
One is to stabilize the gun, so you can find it when you need to get to it.
A second would be to keep the pocket debris out of the mechanisms.
And finally, to keep the trigger from becoming entangled in whatever nonsense you might be wearing -- and to keep from shooting your dumb self in the cojones.
A colleague was telling me his LEO son noticed locally that gang shootouts typically result in superficial wounds and a lot of collateral damage. His suspicion is that they've never been formally trained in any sort of handgun marksmanship.
And so to "remedy" that he had proposed to the department and city council that they begin teaching basic handgun marksmanship so when these gang-bangers shoot each other it results in fatalities.
Reasons for a holster:
One is to stabilize the gun, so you can find it when you need to get to it.
A second would be to keep the pocket debris out of the mechanisms.
And finally, to keep the trigger from becoming entangled in whatever nonsense you might be wearing -- and to keep from shooting your dumb self in the cojones.
troy_mclure
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its mainly the fact that there is NO safety other than the trigger, something snags the trigger and it goes boom.
the s&w sigma is the same, but it is not a popular gun so it gets little mention.
the XD has a back strap safety, along with the trigger safety, but i still never would carry without a holster.
the s&w sigma is the same, but it is not a popular gun so it gets little mention.
the XD has a back strap safety, along with the trigger safety, but i still never would carry without a holster.
I think I know why criminals carry without a holster:
Let's say they get in a confrontation with the police and they need to run to evade capture. They run through some yards and pitch the gun over a fence before they are caught. An officer finds the gun and the perp says, "Hey homie, that ain't my gun."
To which the cop says, "Then why are you wearing a holster that fits it perfectly? You're under arrest."
The criminals probably figure that if you have a holster, it's more difficult to hide or ditch the gun. Frankly, I'm always happy to hear about some thug shooting his bollocks off.
Let's say they get in a confrontation with the police and they need to run to evade capture. They run through some yards and pitch the gun over a fence before they are caught. An officer finds the gun and the perp says, "Hey homie, that ain't my gun."
To which the cop says, "Then why are you wearing a holster that fits it perfectly? You're under arrest."
The criminals probably figure that if you have a holster, it's more difficult to hide or ditch the gun. Frankly, I'm always happy to hear about some thug shooting his bollocks off.
MaxHeadSpace
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How about because a decent one runs $50 to $100 or more. A really cheap nylon/kydex runs maybe $25 -- which will get you high these days.
A decent holster needs a decent belt, more $$$ . . .
That and the hoodlum crowd views a gun as an "accessory" like a pocket knife, or wallet. They don't seem to understand that it works as part of a system, with a holster and belt.
-- Often they barely understand how it works, or how to aim it.
Regular Joe
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It's a great comfort to me to see that most gang bangers don't know how a gun works, or how to make the bullets work. That's exactly why I have great confidence in my Ruger 10/.22's as excellent urban warfare tools. Homie doesn't hear the little "pop-pop", or see a muzzle flash. He just sees his fellow miscreant with something that looks like a vampire bite, and brutha' be real sick!
When it's hot at night, and I just want to go to the car or mailbox or laundry, I'll carry my P-95 in a pants pocket. It fits just fine, and can't get turned the wrong way. Otherwise, it's always in a holster.
When it's hot at night, and I just want to go to the car or mailbox or laundry, I'll carry my P-95 in a pants pocket. It fits just fine, and can't get turned the wrong way. Otherwise, it's always in a holster.
Jmacinnis1
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I always laugh when you see the gangsters drop their pride and joy down their pants and they have to "walk it down the pant leg" to retrieve it, but still look cool while doing it...
Crack's me up every time...
Crack's me up every time...
Jmacinnis1
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Wait, maybe instead of training them how to use them, we'll just put arrows on the barrel that show which way the bullet travels...
We could even make a little saying on the handle with an arrow that says "You hit dis, it go bang!"
I just can't help myself here! Maybe I could patent this idea!
We could even make a little saying on the handle with an arrow that says "You hit dis, it go bang!"
I just can't help myself here! Maybe I could patent this idea! i can't believe no one hit on this yet. yes sometimes the fine young citizens might have an accident. more often then not thought one of their counterparts shoots them, and they just claim accidental because they want to take care of it "on the streets" or they got shot trying to rob a dope dealer. and they never admit to attempted robbery.