CCW Takes On Bank Robber

If a lot more people carried guns, and a lot more people were willing to do what this man did, there wouldn't be bank robbers. Anytime a cop confronts a BG at a bank, he also is putting all others in the bank in jeopardy at the same time. What if the BG shoots someone? What if the cop accidentally shoots an innocent? We could ask our cops to allow robberies to continue, and to only confront them after the bad guys are far away from bystanders, I suppose. Cops or civilians who stop robberies are heroes.
 
a difference

When a CW is taking on a BG at any point in time, there is always the potential for bad things to happen. Obviously, the good guys are always at the disadvantage. I mean, the BG goes into the store with the intent to do ill. Good guys have to first react to the enviornment and then make assesments given the information given right?
If a guy says "I have a bomb" that's an end all statement to me because it's a weapon. There were points made about it being able to do more damage and kill more people than if it were just a gun, but thats true and not true. Whatever the mindset of the BG, property damage is the colateral effect to the BG main intent and stopping property damage should never be a reason to draw on a BG. So, in my opinion we're down to stopping the bad guys from hurting/killing good guys. If the guy were carying any kind of gun, he could achive the same thing as a bomb, but it woudl take more trigger pulls (and thus more time) to hurt the same amount of innocent people as ONE trigger pull on his bomb.
So yes, hearing "I HAVE A BOMB" is reason enough for a CW to take action.
 
Let us review.

Man enters bank and attempts to rob it with a note saying he has a bomb. He even informs another customer "I have a bomb".

Now we initiate the grey cells in turbocharged mode. Is there any evidence he has a bomb? Does he appear to have a deadman switch or a pushbutton? Does he appear lucid, focused and capable of carrying out the threat? Does it appear that he has any accomplices you can see?

Depending on the above assessment you take a course of action. As I see it, these actions are:
  • Do nothing, bide your time and take action when/if necessary.
  • Draw and shoot him in the head.
  • Draw and at gunpoint demand to see his hands or otherwise secure him.
  • Run out of the bank screaming like a little girl.

If he holds a deadman switch (or Blackflags' red-herring with two grenades) then biding your time is most likely correct. You don't reveal your armed status and if the time comes, you terminate him quickly.

Please note that someone who says "I have a bomb" and indicates it is strapped to his body is NOT the same as a man saying he has a gun or will kill you. The bomber is saying I want my demands met and I'm willing to die to get what I want, plus killing or maiming anyone around.
 
let the situation dictate the response

good posts! i think that the situation should dictate the response and having just one option; NUCLEAR and stating that option in this forum can be problematical to a CCW. working in bars and taking many self defense classes, i hear too many people saying " if this happens, i'll do this....
assess the threat and have a measured response. given that you have practiced many situations many ways will have a better chance for a CCW to be a Godsend than a menace.
The proportion of CCW citizens is getting smaller. If everyone that had the right to carry, did carry, and it was a well know fact, the "successful probabilities" of pulling this off is more likely to dissuade a 'thinking person', 'thinking person' from thinking about doing it. Dealing with a desperate person who believes he has only one option; steal or perish, would certainly call for deliberate measure.
Every situation is different with it's own level of threat. Only you can assess the situation YOUR in. My plug would be for more CCW's and more training for all kinds of threats. The amount of money we throw @ crimefighting might be well spent in training citizens too.
I am sure this will be a perpetual topic.
 
Nice to see a Middle Eastern American portrayed correctly for once.
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I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying all Middle Eastern Americans are fine, upstanding heroes? Kind of a stereotyping, isn't it?
 
No, I think he is saying that most Muslims like most people are basically good people trying to live their lives in the best way they know how.
 
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