CC for Jogging or Biking?

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Eli the Jock

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Greetings, Brother and Sisters.
I am a new contributor, but more than that, I'm a former skeptic when it comes to carrying guns. Allow me to explain.
As you can tell from my nickname, I love sports and consider myself something of a decent athlete. I run, bike and train for half ironman competitions. Politically, I consider myself liberal on most things, conservative on a few. I always opposed CC laws on the grounds that it might lead to more danger for the authorities, as I have friends who are police officers. Like many of you, something has happened to change that view.
The other night, I was jogging in the neighborhood around dusk. I was on a deserted stretch of road when a strange car pulled along side as I ran. It followed me for a short period. Suddenly, a pretty nasty looking dude leaned out of the car window and told me to "drop to the ground!" I was frozen, but kept on running at my steady pace, ignoring this person. It all happened so fast. I could see out of the corner of my eye something shiney and metallic in his hand. It was either a gun or a knife. A few yards along, he yelled again, "I said, drop to the ground, mfer!!!" My first instinct was to speed up, so I ran faster which led him to drive faster to keep up with me. At that point, I realized my only hope was to sprint behind the car before he stopped and got out, and head us a side street which I knew led to a McDonalds'. I managed to run away, and lose him, and I made it ok, and sat in Micky D's for a good while before I calmed down.
Suffice to say, it was the closest I'd ever come to dying, and I knew it. There has been a rash of muggings and breakins in our area over the past month. Can't say it's the same person, but anyway, it sure changed my thinking. I believe we should have the right to carry a concealed weapon. I think we can actually help our sisters and brothers in law enforcement.
So now I come to you and ask you if you can recommend a handgun that would be best suited for a person like me who can CC it during a jog or a bike, as I have been almost attacked by some pretty nasty pitbulls on occasion as well. I'm thinking something in the 9mm or 40cal range, as I think 45 might be too much right now. Also semi-auto with both single and double action. I've been doing some cramming on weapons over the past week, but I still need some advice.
Thank you for your time, and I will anxiously await your sure to be thoughful and thorough replies.
Eli.
 
Welcome to the forum! Great to have you. First, I'd suggest going finding a place, if available, in your area that will let you rent some guns to try out. You need to get a feel for what is comfortable in your hand. Also, if you are going to be jogging with the gun, you'll want to check out some holsters that will work well for that. Perhaps a fanny pack or belly band would work. I don't run, so maybe someone else could chime in here.

A 9mm is a good choice, as it is cheap to shoot, and plenty powerful for what you need it for. A subcompact Glock, XD or M&P may be good places to start. However if you are sold on the DA/SA setup, you could check out Sig. I'm partial to striker fired, but that is just me. You have to go with what works best for you.

Good luck!
 
Well....

Welcome to the light side of the force.

A concealable pistol for running, in a 9mm or a .40 is, for all practical purposes, a white whale.

Yes, you can carry anything you want, but having a hunk of metal banging up against any part of your body will be a pain. Having to strap it securely enough to your torso to keep it from moving while running would also mean it would be difficult to draw.

You might be better off looking at a smaller caliber, polymer framed handgun like a Keltec P32. It is very small, very light, and though it fires a marginal caliber round, it is better than nothing at all.

Another option is a small .22 Magnum. North American Arms makes a dozen models and I used to carry one when I ran. It is all metal, but small and light enough not to be a burden.

When on a bicycle, it all changes and you can carry whatever you can conceal.
 
I 'walk' our development with a NAA .22 Magnum ......small and light.

Not a crime area by any means.



You best bet would be to run away no matter what size gun you were carrying.
 
I would think while running you might be better off having pepper spray as your primary defense to buy you time to get to your pistol, cause you will have to have it more secured as a previous poster said. On the bike, you can take anything. I used to pack a PM9 until I sold it, but I have a handlebar bag that would fit anything up to my 6" GP100. As far as which pistol, try to get your hands on as many as you can and see what you like, what fits you, and what you shoot well.
 
Try a Kel-Tec P3AT on their elastic lanyard around your neck hanging under your shirt or better yet, in the pocket of a pocket T-Shirt. I have gone out in nothing but a pocket T and shorts armed that way with no problems.

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+1 on the previous recommendations for lightweight carry guns for jogging. i've tried running once or twice with one of my regular carry guns and i can tell you that it is a serious PITA! a small, very light, polymer gun would be much better - say, a kel-tec p3at or maybe even p32. should weigh about 9 or 10 oz loaded. definitely do-able. on a bike, yes... carry whatever you are comfortable with.

sorry to hear about your experience, but glad to have another person see the light and decide to take responsibility for his safety into his own hands. the police are fine at their job. unfortunately however, too often their job is simply photographing the body and trying to find the killer.

best luck
 
Welcome, glad your ok. I dont run anymore due to recent injuries, but when I did I mostly carried a NAA Guardian .380 while jogging. Very compact and reliable, but a little heavy for its size. If carried close to the body while jogging it was never an issue. Too heavy to pocket carry in loose jogging pants while running though. I also use to jog with a S&W J frame airweight 442 or 638 revolver. very light, but a little larger than the Guardian.
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CC for jogging and biking

I first want to apologize if I may have violated any kind of etiquette here. I posted my original story in a couple of different threads, and if that is not within the rules, I sincerely apologize. I repect this forum very much, and it won't happen again.
A special thanks to all your replies, as I never thought so many would reply so fast! Thanks for the ideas on particular models and the pics, especially. And HeroHog, I like your idea very much! It's a solution that will fit me perfectly. The idea of wearing my weapon on a sturdy band around the neck never occurred to me. I could try different variations on that. even in warm weather, I think it could work under a baggy shirt. Plus, the extra weight would add to the workout. On the bike, I could use my tool pouch, no problem.
So thanks again, all, and will update regularly. You've given me a lot of homework, so I better get to work!
Eli.
 
Thanks. Note that I tossed the cheap plastic clip Kel-Tec uses on the lanyard and simply looped the lanyard through the lanyard loop and then through itself. It is still easily detachable and makes for a cleaner install for the lanyard.

If ya get the pocket clip as well, ya wind up with enough metal screw secured cross pins to replace all the plastic ones with and it secures the lanyard loop a lot better as well.
 
I always opposed CC laws on the grounds that it might lead to more danger for the authorities, as I have friends who are police officers. Like many of you, something has happened to change that view.
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Well, Eli my friend. In my state, a CCW requires a course where one learns about the laws that govern the use of deadly force, other laws related to carrying a firearm, and gun safety as well. Then he/she must demonstrate competency with the gun on the shooting range. When the course is complete, the applicant must pass a Co. Sheriff back ground check AND then an FBI Federal back ground check.

I think you see now that it's not law abiding armed citizens who put your cop friends at risk, but I do appreciate your concern for them.


Glad to see you've changed your mind about CCW, even it it did take a personal frightening experience.


I'll leave it to others to advise you as to which gun you should carry. The advice I've seen, so far, seems pretty reasonable--except I might check out Ruger's new LCR , since you need to travel light when running if you'd consider a revolver.:D

Oh yes, one last thing. Hope you'll consider voting for some of the folks on the other side of the political fence---like the ones who are willing to protect the right you've now decided to excercise--and the one the liberals want to take away.:cool: Sorry for the minor lecture, couldn't help myself, Red Bull again.
 
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I'm far from an athlete, but the Keltec around your neck will beat you to death, and the lanyard does not make for quick access.
This will be a first-but I recommend an elastic belly band holster. It will keep the gun tightly against your torso and allow for a relatively quick draw. Anything heavier than a P32 Keltec will be difficult to carry, even in the belly band-due to constant moving during your jog.
 
I suggest buying 2 Hi Point .45's and each carried in an ankle holster,your workout will double!

One thing i may add is,your only running and training so much of the day.That leaves a BIG part of your day your not thinking about,so you may also want to consider a gun that will cover you also when your not training.
Or buy 2 guns,one for each duty.
Also guns don't have to be excessively expensive if you don't want them to be.And always ask in the correct section of course about any gun you like and see what others think about it and how it may work for you.Honestly we like talking about guns,we do it alot even when we have to repeat our selves 100 times like when we say ".22's should never be used for ccw,carry a ball peen hammer instead".

For your Training id be looking for a .380 that fits your need,they can be made small and light as much less effective calibers.
For everyday anything from 9mm too .45 is good,but since your new and carrying a largish gun can be hard i suggest a nice compact 9mm.
Then later if you feel you need more power move up then,but get used too ccw and carrying 100% of the time.

While showering they make the Glock on a rope,that will have you covered there also.
 
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I am a runner. Carrying whille running requires a very - very - secure base and
a lightweight gun. I have neither and so can tell you that a gun, even a derringer, takes on a life of its own when not secured close.
an elastic belly band holster.
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+1 about that. It was my first thought. The gun suggestions are good ones.
Pete
 
If you use a hydration pack (ie Camelback) with an open external pocket, you can stash a decent size gun there. I carried a j-frame 38 in mine for a solo century I did this Spring. A "pocket Glock" in 9mm would work as well.

A KT P3AT or P32 with a belt clip in the waistband of your shorts should work while running. I don't run, so I've not tested that though. :)

Chris
 
+1 on the Keltec p3at. .380 cal and VERY lightweight. I'd front pocket carry. I skate with mine, front pocket. GURU wallet holster.
 
I used a cheap nylon fanny pack, slung it on my right hip, and put a .38 S&W 642 in it with my cell phone, a speed strip with five more rounds, and my wallet.
 
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