CC at halloween time

Let me see. You just PAID to go into a place where you expect ugly, "scary" things to jump out at you and go "BOO!".

Why would you be at all surprised that something ugly and scary jumped out at you and went "BOO!"?

Which kinda defeats the purpose for going in there in the first place if you ask me.

Yea. I'll carry at Halloween. Same as any other day.
 
Yeah, I'll be carrying. I don't have any fear that the goblin next door will scare me so badly I pull out the CCW and blaze away at him and the other ghouls.....
 
It depends on your level of training. Someone trained to react without thought to a SD situation may find themselves in a room filled with smoke and a lot of frightened people.
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You mean like someone suffering from some sort of mental issue from combat?

Anyone who'd do something like that should not carry a gun in public...ever. Things happen in life, and if a person reacts "without thought" they should not carry a gun outside of a combat zone.

In reality, "a high level of training" should allow them to evaluate a situation very quickly, but not "without thought".

Daryl
 
Holy #@#$ talk about TRICK or TREAT! This is why I hide my wife's gun on halloween, she has a sweet tooth and I don't want any nasty incidents.
 
Guess I have to ask. Are you afraid of shooting a goblin who surprise you, or are you afraid someone will feel your gun and/or actually take it from you? Maybe it is too early and I'm missing something....:D
 
I won't be and my reason has nothing to do with being so highly trained that I can't think anymore or that I'm afraid some zombie will take my gun. The haunted house we go to is posted no cc so the decision is already made for me. If that wasn't the case I would carry though. I figure if you can't control yourself or you carry in such a way that you're afraid of losing your weapon you might want to rethink the whole totin' a pistol thing. Just my opinion of course:cool:
 
You mean like someone suffering from some sort of mental issue from combat?

Anyone who'd do something like that should not carry a gun in public...ever. Things happen in life, and if a person reacts "without thought" they should not carry a gun outside of a combat zone.

In reality, "a high level of training" should allow them to evaluate a situation very quickly, but not "without thought".

Daryl
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So, picture you have finished the haunted house and have gotten your system full of adrenaline. You walk under a lighted EXIT sign, down a 20' dim corridor. 2/3 of the way down the corridor, a guy in a trench coat steps out from a concealed doorway , whips open the coat and pulls a pistol out.

You do what?





I stepped forward, down blocked his gun hand and dropped him with a counter punch. All by reflex - without thought. There was no time to determine if it was a real gun, just time to close distance and stop him before the gun was leveled. It turns out, that was "the last scare" before leaving the haunted house. Oops!:o
 
Where do yo live ?? ,if I was taking my kids ,no I would not be CCW there is a place and time for every thing ,kids crowds come the whole world is not that crazy ,unless where you live there are lots of scum :eek:
 
So, picture you have finished the haunted house and have gotten your system full of adrenaline.
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So, wow, you're "full of adrenaline" after leaving a "haunted" house that you already know isn't really haunted. I'm trying to "picture" this: so, at the "end" of the tour a guy jumps out and pulls a gun from his trench coat and you deck him. Well, BOO! I'd say you scare pretty easy. If you had a gun on you would you have shot the last act? You know, "all by reflex-without thought"?
 
I would think that common sense would guide us to decide whether to arm ourselves based on a realistic threat level. If we carry all the time, including to children's functions, then we arm ourselves for some purpose other than purely defensive. Weapons are an important part of life, but are not appropriate everywhere. If there is any question whatsoever whether you will be able to control yourself, you should not be armed (unless of course the loss of control could be attributed to a legitimate lethal threat). Those of us who do not feel threatened enough to need to carry a sidearm with us everywhere are often confused by what could possibly make so many people feel so constantly under lethal threat. Could you imagine a circumstance under which it would be wise to discharge a weapon in a corn maze full of parents and children? To my thinking, the risk of collateral damage would outweigh any possible defensive benefit, and the absence of any real threat would seem to preclude the need for artillery. Maybe I'm missing something here, and I certainly don't intend to be too critical of how others choose to exercise their rights, but I'd like to know just what the reasoning is, or if it's simply because we can. Even in the service I didn't carry a weapon everywhere, and in theater we never chambered a round until we were either engaged, or leaving the wire (even then, only weapons mounted outside the vehicle). We (and all other civilized nations) prohibit the carrying of concealed weapons in war because it makes one appear to be unarmed, and a non-threat, and causes the kind of confusion that results in unacceptable civilian casualties. I strongly believe that if you are armed, you should be readily identifiable as such.
 
I strongly believe that if you are armed, you should be readily identifiable as such.
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Can you give me one good reason why I should reveal my armed status in advance to somebody who means to kill me or some innocent other?
 
I would think that common sense would guide us to decide whether to arm ourselves based on a realistic threat level.
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If I only armed myself "based on a realistic threat level", I'd never carry. If I figure something bad will happen somewhere, I won't go there.

Meanwhile, bad things happen to good people at times, and most of them don't expect it. Do you carry in your own home? I feel pretty secure in mine, but I also know that home invasions are getting more and more common in my area. A couple of young women were shot up pretty bad (one killed) in a home invasion about 5 miles from me about 2 months ago. I'm pretty sure if they thought it might happen, they'd have been gone.

I left a store the other day, and a guy followed me...way off to the other side of the parking lot where I was parked. I wasn't sure what he was up to, and was sort of glad I was armed. Turned out he was driving the only other vehicle parked that far from the store. No threat, so I guess I should have left my handgun at home? What if he'd had other plans? We don't always know what's going to happen.

I was headed home from work many years ago, late at night, and stopped for a soda to keep me awake. Didn't notice anything when I went in, but when I came back out there was a guy waiting for me that was pretty insistant that I give him a ride to his car. He said he'd ran out of gas a half mile away, and now needed a ride back to his car because "it might be dangerous" walking the street at that time of night. Trouble was, he didn't have a gas can, and I knew of two other gas station he's have had to walk past to get where he was. I didn't have a handgun on me, but I did pull a shotgun half way out from behind the seat of my truck before he backed off. Was he a threat? I'm still not sure, but I didn't give him a ride. Had I known he was even there, I wouldn't have stopped. We don't know what's going to happen.

A handgun that's properly carried and secure in a holster is NOT a danger to anyone. If I'm carrying concealed, no one knows I'm even armed.

I strongly believe that if you are armed, you should be readily identifiable as such.
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Just for fun, I'm going to play "devil's advocate" for a moment. I open carry quite a bit, and have never had a problem with it. It's well accepted in my area, but there ARE occasions where I conceal by choice, or it's required.

Now, it's all good for concealed carry to be prohibited in combat as long as everyone is playing by the same rules. Criminals don't play by the rules, and they generally carry concealed illegally, because it's illegal for them to carry a gun at all if they have any prior felony conviction.

I believe stongly that people should carry any way they want to. Regulating such things only restricts the law abiding, and law abiding people don't need to be restricted.

Daryl
 
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Well, personally I never go to haunted houses - I know they're fake and expect people who work there will try to scare me. Because I'm expecting to be frightened, I'm not. Fear often comes from the unknown and the unexpected. Also - you know that it's a haunted house, but it's not real and there are rules for the employees that prevent them from doing any real harm to the patrons (largely to protect the owners from potential litigation). Anyway, due mostly to these facts, I don't patronize them.

Now, that being said, something that I have been considering (half-heartedly) is dressing up as.. say.. a cowboy.. with the boots, hat, long coat and gun rig - but with a real, loaded weapon. Open carry is legal where I live, so it would not be against the law. I wonder how many people (if any) would even realize the gun was real?
 
I strongly believe that if you are armed, you should be readily identifiable as such.
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Does that statement apply to criminals too, or are you implying it applies to those who conceal legally (civilian and law enforcement)?
 
Tomas204 said:
Where do yo live ?? ,if I was taking my kids ,no I would not be CCW there is a place and time for every thing ,kids crowds come the whole world is not that crazy ,unless where you live there are lots of scum
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Some people say the same thing about churches, schools, shopping malls. The government says the same thing about post offices. We know how well that thinking works in those places.

People don't get shot on Halloween?
 
I strongly believe that if you are armed, you should be readily identifiable as such.
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Does that statement apply to criminals too, or are you implying it applies to those who conceal legally (civilian and law enforcement)?
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Personally, I feel the original statement applies to those who carry firearms for legal purposes.

The criminal should hide his/her gun. Either their possession of their firearm is illegal or for illegal purposes and if they don't want law enforcement to take away their gun and lock them up in jail, then they should hide their guns.

As a law abiding citizen, in my opinion only, not telling you what is right for you to do, I should carry my firearm openly and be readily identifiable as an armed and hardened target, without fear of law enforcement taking my gun away or locking me up in jail. And that is the way that I do carry my firearm.

Do not take my second statement above to be comparing those who carry concealed legally to criminals, that is not what I am trying to say or imply.
 
I've had that thought since the first time I stumbled across one of those shows, a few years back. It was reinforced last week when we went to see "Zombieland."

Great movie, by the way. You'll understand what I'm talking about immediately, if you've seen it.
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Brilliant Scene! Talk about being lousy at pranks...
 
I'm pretty sure none of my friends would be dumb enough to set up a stunt like that, but I wonder what precautions such shows take to ensure that the "victim" won't pull a weapon and shoot the simulated attacker.
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You know I actually saw a reverse prank about this once.

The guy was a fairly no-name actor, and his friends got the show Scare Tactics to contact him about being an a show "Fear Antics" where he was supposed to jump out and scare someone with a bloody jumpsuit and fake knife as part of THAT show. The gag was actually being pulled on him. The person he jumped out at was also an actor/stuntman, and when he jumped out the guy intentionally backed off the balcony (appearing frightened) and fell. When the guy who thought he was scaring an innocent person ran down they had his "victim" made up to look like he had multiple broken limbs, lacerations, and was paralyzed.

The guy freaked out pretty bad. This one was just turning the joke around, but I had to think that such an event quite possibly could happen.

As to the original question though, no, I wouldn't carry at such an event. The actors at those events often can touch you (though you can't do the same - basically the same rules as a stripclub), and in the darker areas a lot of people are bumping up against each other and whatnot. One I went to this year had a pitch black maze where you literally had to feel your way out. There's just too much chance someone else would grab or feel the gun.

If you're not comfortable leaving your gun at home for that trip then I'd say to avoid the attraction completely.
 
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