Case Bulging Issues in Rhino

I recently purchased a Chiappa White Rhino 4". Very nice gun in many ways, though I have some concerns. Nice trigger, finish, function, etc. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Shoots very well. Same recoil as a similar sized .357mag but of course less barrel jump. Now the problems:

1. When I shoot .357, I get a very distinct bulge in the cases all the way around a little ways up from the rim. Nothing close to case failure, but I like to reload and I don't like to shoot magnum loads in resized brass that has bulged, even if it's minor. I measured the cylinder chambers in the Rhino and found them to be approximately: .387". For comparison I measured several other revolvers and found the following: Ruger = .382", S&W = .382, Taurus = .381, Rossi = .381. Clearly the Rhino is larger than the rest. That may account for the bulging. I contacted Chiappa with the info and they said right now all their techs were at a conference and they'd get back with me as soon as the techs return. Anyone have similar case bulging in a revolver? Any comments on the diameter of the cylinder chambers? Is .387 too large?

2. Earlier today I shot some 38 Special in my Rhino and something very strange happened. On the sixth round I thought I had a squib. Was shooting reloads, but in thousands of rounds of my own reloads, I've never undercharged a round...never a squib. Anyway, it sent the projectile about half-way down the barrel. I later removed it with a wooden dowel and some oil. What is interesting, though, is the case shows the hot gas burned the outside of the case on one side all the way down to the rim. It's not just black from carbon. The brass itself is quite discolored. I'm thinking now the extra room in the cylinder chamber caused this problem. Anything like this ever happen to anyone else?

No more shooting the Rhino until something gets fixed.
 
Rhino wants to stay in business,they better fix your revolver.

People all over the internet are reading how you will be treated on this.

Looks like a cylinder change is in order.
 
yeah... this is deffinatly one ill follow. i want to buy a white rhino... ill head into my local shop and ask to measure a few, ill post what i find.
 
Seeing I like the looks of the Rhino and the less barrel flip. I too will be watching the fix and the measurements .
 
Rhino wants to stay in business,they better fix your revolver.

People all over the internet are reading how you will be treated on this.

Looks like a cylinder change is in order.

B.N Real is right. This is the first account I've heard of Rhino problems but I also have not read many owner reviews about them either. The way they handle this problem will be interesting. All the techs being away at a conference is new... Keep us updated.
 
Here's the actual e-mail from Chiappa:

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"Dear Customer,

The customer care department servicing the USA out of our Dayton,OH location is attending the trade show in LAS VEGAS till the 23rd, please pardon the inconvenience. If your firearm is in for repair, the smiths are still working. If you need help with sales please use the automated system (937)835-5000 Option 1 for pricing and availability and a sales representative will assist you. All other inquiries will be dealt with after the 23rd. Customer care warranty/repair (937)835-4640.

Again we apologize for any inconvenience and ask for your patience. Have A Great Day!

CHIAPPA CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM"

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I'll be getting in touch with Chiappa on the 23rd. From a post in another forum I learned that my cylinder chambers exceed SAAMI specs for a .357. Likely related to or caused the problems I've encountered.

In fairness to Chiappa, aside from this problem, the Rhino is a very nice revolver. If they stand behind their product and fix the problem, I would actually recommend the Rhino. A bit on the pricey side, but I like the fit, finish, feel, and function of the 4" version. Shorter versions are ugly IMO, the longer versions are front heavy.

Will let you know how things work out.
 
No bulged cases from my...

do you have a pair of mics? would you mind taking a measurement of the cylinder and post up?

i will measure some at the store when i get a free moment (maybe tuesday)
 
both please... though the front should be smaller than the back due to the head space rim

x2 on the pictures

but yeah if the cylinders are reading OVER the SAMMI spec size then that would be the culprit. hopefully this is a chance occurrence and you just got a bad cylinder. should be an easy fix though
 
Measured my Rhino

The chamber mouth measures .3819
The chamber exit measures .3568
Well within spec.


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Yes, and it corresponds to the case bulge. A fresh Hornady factory round measures about .375" near the based. After I fire one I get a bulge around the circumferance of the case that measures approximately .386". So it basically bulges to the limits of the cylinder bores: .386.5" - .387". I really wonder how that would account for the odd squib that I had firing .38 spl. don't know if calling it a squib would be correct. I doubt it was an under-charged round. More likely from the discoloration on the outside of the case wall the hot gases leaked out from there. I was looking at the target more than the gun so I didn't see anything odd when it happened. Just heard it. I was doing .38 spl rapid fire and it happended on the last round. Could have been quite different story if it was on one of the middle rounds and I didn't catch it in time. Would've had a Ka-Boom story.
 
"Was shooting reloads, but in thousands of rounds of my own reloads, I've never undercharged a round...never a squib."

It may point to the OP using reloaded ammo too. Possible?
Please keep us posted on what Chiappa says.
 
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Possible, I guess.

No response yet to my latest e-mail to Chiappa. Tough time reaching anyone there by phone but I will try again tomorrow.

Before I mailed the gun to them I wanted to speak with someone who was in the know. I just don't like mailing an expensive gun away for weeks and waiting to get it back with the problem fixed, or maybe not.

I asked specifically about chamber measurements and the person I was speaking with said he didn't have the info right there on hand. Fair enough. But he said he'd check on it and let me know. Have heard nothing back.
 
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