cartridges above 30-06

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An old Mauser re-chambered for a 30-06 case and the case necked out to .323 and you have an 8MM-06.

The larger bullet base gives more area to push on so I would think you get the same advantage the 32 Win Spcl has over the 30-30.

Typical load using a 150 gr bullet and 59 grains of 4895 gives you a muzzle velocity of 3026 fps and energy of 3050 ft/lbs.

Or you could borrow my .348 and see if you like getting your bell rung everytime you pull the trigger. :D It's only a 150 yard gun practically speaking but it will stop a freight train...well a small train. :D
 
I have a 338-06. Wildcat, but easy made cases from '06 or 25-06. A 200-210 at 2800 is a thumper with the recoil of an '06 with 180s.
 
I know you can load a 300 WM down to 30-06, but you can't load an '06 up to a 300 WM. I know moose have a reputation for soaking up 30-06, but that isn't with modern bullets. The win mag will get you another couple hundred fps gain, and that translates to range, more than anything. That 300 WM case can sure go through a can of powder in a hurry.
 
The win mag will get you another couple hundred fps gain, and that translates to range, more than anything.
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Well it translates to a flatter trajectory, I wouldn't say more range. Both the 06 and Win Mag are effective way past what the normal hunter will ever shoot. What the extra 200 fps really does is impart more energy with the bullet at normal hunting ranges. Which in turn usually gets a larger reaction from the animal hit. However, all is moot if you can't shoot the Win Mag as well as the 06.
 
I believe you can get a somewhat derated version of the powder Hornady is using in their souped up rounds that have been mentioned.

The advantage is that while it does not have quite the velocity that Hornady is getting, you can load for better accuracy (using all the tricks that even Hornady can't use.).

It gets you pretty close to a 300 WM and that's getting into really good territory.
 
There is always the 50BMG its not a magnum and has major knock down power and I have seen people shoot it competitively at 1 mile. My first time shooting one I was able to hit a 5 foot target at 1 mile (after some one else sighted it in)

All kidding aside the 300WM is close to what you want but it is a magnum.

Really the 30-06 is hard to beat.
 
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the 300 WSM might be a good option. Balistics are very close to the 300 Win Mag but will have slightly less recoil in a similar weighted rifle. Now if you go with one of the very light weight model versions of the WSM it is of course going to have higher recoil.
 
I have just now switched to Nosler, my second oldest bro said there was too much meat damage on a moose from his 300 win mag loaded with Barnes tsx ot ttsx bullets.
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Easily solved by not shooting them in the meat. Software issue, and so is easier to fix than a hardware issue.
 
I've never messed with the .225, but odds are it'll ruin prairie dogs as well as most anything. :)

I once had a tack-driving .264, but I couldn't figure out any real use for it in Texas hunting. The old '06 worked plenty good, and reloads used a bunch less powder. :)
 
If you are set up to reload and don't mind working with wildcat or proprietary cartridges, you might look into the .30 Gibbs. It's basically a .30-06 case that blown out and lengthened a bit........a little more improved than an Ackley Improved and with a slightly shorter neck.

The beauty is that like the Ackley, the Gibbs can be fire formed from .30-06 just by seating the bullet a little long or you can purchase .30 Gibbs headstamped and formed brass by Quality Cartridge from Buffalo Arms and not waste the powder and lead for fire formng.
 
Although not a magnum :D I've been considering a .260 Remington or a 6.5 creedmoor. To match a really good .264 bullet with a high B.C., you would have to use a .30 cal bullet with about 190 grains with magnum velocities.
 
9.3x62 - 286 grain bullets will drop everything including Grizzly / Brown bear with comfortable recoil. Downside is bullets drop like a rock after 250 yards, and while factory loads are made by several manufacturers, e.g. Norma, Federal, Hornady, PRVI, Sellier & Bellot etc, the cost makes it prohibitive for mostr and necessary to get into reloading.

I use my Husqvarna for everything now, from Deer up to Grizzly.
Bolt rifles (new) are available from CZ and possibly others, not sure.
 
Hi, is there any cartridges that are a little bit more powerful than a .30-06 but not a magnum?
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Dozens (though many are obsolete)..... look at a reloading manual.

Like with a little bit more velocity and less bullet drop past a certain distance.
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To get more velocity/less drop without increasing the powder charge (meaning needing more case capacity and powder ...... = "Magnum"), lighter bullets will start with more velocity, and skinnier bullets will retain more velocity longer (i.e. take longer to slow down) .... so by your example in the second line, a .270 or .280 would be "more powerful" ..... though not necessarily in the energy level department.
 
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