Carrying small framed semi-autos with round chambered?

If I was robbed an attacked as much as you have been. I'd get a rigid holster pocket carry similar to the Kramer Pocket Holster. Carry with round in the chamber. Than carry a larger caliber holster with adequate ammo supply to neutralize the threat and their cohorts.
 
I too carry my glock 19 chambered and use Uncle Mike's soft ITW holster size 16.
Tunnel Rat said it quite well" that you have a really expensive paperweight/club"
if your pistol is not chambered. Okay, I was a tad nervous for about 5 days carrying
my glock chambered but after carrying it & practicing being Quicks Draw McGraw(unloaded), I stopped worrying.
I am no expert by any means, but
I know what worked for me and how I got past my concerns.
If you can't get past carrying a semi chambered than get yourself a 6,7or 8 shot revolver and move on.
 
For those who are not comfortable carrying a round chambered in a pistol with a long DAO action or a trigger safety with a >5# trigger pull, a thumb or grip safety is a far better option than an empty chamber. Sweeping a safety off is a viable action when presenting the gun to fire. Chambering a round is not. Carrying an unloaded gun only gives​ the illusion of being armed. There are too many options available to even consider it in my opinion.
 
This is why I switched from the LCP to the S&W BG. Basically the same gun as far as size and weight, but I wouldn't carry the LCP with one chambered. I feel comfortable doing so with the BG because it has a safety.
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Makes little to no sese. Would you not carry a DAO, hammerless revolver because it does nothave a safety? (none do!)
The DAO, shrouded hammer action of the LCP is exactly the same. Safetys can get you killed in a CCW gun. No matter how much you train, there is a very real chance than in a moment of panic you will forget it, miss it, or slip off of it.
A CCW gun with an empty chamber is an empty gun. Am empty gun is a rock!
 
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Recently, i purchased an LC9S Pro when they were on sale at a very good price of $310. I had thought the trigger too light for my taste but thought I would try it and probably get accustomed to it. I loaded it and carried it around my house for a few days, chamber empty but "cocked" as it were. I tried it in several positions and in kydex and soft-sided holsters. I never tripped the trigger. In the end, however, I realized the fully cocked striker and the very light trigger would always weigh on me and that I am much more comfortable with my hammer-fired, true DAO Sig P290rs, preferring a trigger slightly too heavy and long to one slightly too light and short. I traded it back to my LGS (at a fair loss) and someone got a smoking deal and I'm comfortable knowing where I truly stand on the LC9S Pro. I tend to favor appendix carry and value my nether regions too much to carry the LC9S Pro in that manner. I realize I am in the minority. A troglodyte. A neanderthal. I can live with that.
 
Laz, I agree with you on the LC9s Pro; the trigger is too light to carry AIWB. The standard version has a thumb safety that makes it a better choice IMO. You may be a troglodyte, but you are not the only one here!

I think a thumb safety is perfectly acceptable on a fighting handgun or rifle, but that isn't the topic here.
 
I've carried a S&W 640 in an Uncle Mike's Size 4 (front pocket). No issues.

I have carried a Glock 42 and a P238 similarly. Not a problem.

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Here's one more for carrying with a round chambered, so long as your trigger is reasonably shielded. I also don't care for manual safeties. While flipping off a safety is usually less intensive than racking the slide, it's still an extra step. I look for safety in the right trigger pull, a decent holster, and paying attention to what I'm doing when I handle a firearm.
 
I look for safety in the right trigger pull, a decent holster, and paying attention to what I'm doing when I handle a firearm.
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I totally agree with the above. I'm in favor of having a round chambered but I also found that some trigger pulls are more or less "right" than others. :eek:
 
As a police officer throughout my career and responsible for dept firearms training there is no way i would send an officer into the jungle without a round in the chamber be it uniform, plain clothes or off duty.
Skipping all the cute remarks about what an unloaded pistol is, it just does not make good sense to take the time to charge or the noise if not wanted plus if you have all that time available use your phone and call 911.
I remember my friend who was a Colonel in charge of Military Police at a time when they carried S&W revolvers, with an empty chamber under the hammer!!
Try as I might I could not convince him the procedure he was following was from the 1800's when a dropped pistol would fire if hit on the hammer. Modern revolvers long ago overcame that situation through updates to designs.
When they transitioned to Beretta's they were carried with an empty chamber.
If a pocket pistol use a holster to help with the fingerprint and safety especially if a single action pistol.
 
Maybe at Shiloh Battlefield in TN, 1862.
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My favorite stomping grounds when it comes to Battlefields,
haunted as Bleep!! LOVE IT :)

Back in 1987, got into a motorcycle crash,
car in front of me stopped unexpectedly, and I bounced
off their rear bumper, when the rear wheel hit,
lost grip on the clutch, popped into gear and into the ditch...
looked real pretty tho...had a a pair of crutches
bungie'd to the passenger bar, and a Big Rebel Flag
tied to the top of those...so when I hit, and did an Endo,
my helmet nearly touching their trunk lid...
the flag waved mightly up and down, then into the ditch ;)

Hey, any motorcycle crash you can limp away from...LOL
 
Vastly prefer pistols that can be carried Cocked & Locked
when it comes to CC...but a firing pin drop safety is a wonderful
thing as well...that's a feature of Star pistols & some others.

Basically, when the FP drop safety is on, there is No Possible Way
that the gun will fire until you flip it to Fire.
Zero, None, Nada.
Also acts as a drop safety by default.

Best thing is, you don't have to recock it like you do a de-cocker.
Just flip the safety to Fire, and it's rock & roll time.
 

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The DAO, shrouded hammer action of the LCP is exactly the same. Safetys can get you killed in a CCW gun. No matter how much you train, there is a very real chance than in a moment of panic you will forget it, miss it, or slip off of it.
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There's a very real chance that in a moment of panic you will forget to disengage the safety? True.

But if the event's timing is so critical and the bad guy is so close that an extra second or two is the difference between life an death, you're likely to get shot anyway, and a shot into the bad guy doesn't mean that he can't keep shooting at you. You might also miss the target altogether -- it is, after all, a moment of panic. Stuff happens.

Some gun owners seem more afraid of their weapons than the threats or dangers that caused them to get a gun in the first place. Being afraid of your weapon is different than being aware of the risks associated with using them, and is certainly not the same as being safety conscious and developing and using good gun-handling practices.

I think a fear of the weapon is why some gun owners advocate carrying a weapon with an empty chamber. They assume that when the SHTF they will have both hands free and the time needed to chamber a round! Bad guys don't always let you see or hear them coming...

Safeties seem most necessary with single action guns that are carried cocked & locked. The vast majority of guns nowadays don't even have the kind of safeties you can flip on or off!! But, if I'm carrying a SA gun, it'll be cocked & locked when it's in my holster.
 
My advice? Get old (like me) at 81. Then carry a Glock 19, in an outside the belt Kydex Holster. Covered by a shirt/vest/whatever.

Draw, aim, fire. And I have 16 rounds of 9mm to deal with the problem.
We citizens sit a lot, do we not? Pistol in a pocket holster, no Sir.

I am big enough to carry an extra 17 rounds in an extra magazine, and do.

Carrying an empty chamber, in anything? Mental. Ask me who missed a safety on a Colt 1911 once, only once. Never carried one of those again.
 
Carrying with an empty chamber in a semi would not be my choice. Odds are that I will not get a chance to rack the slide in a bad situation. Before I started carrying my G27, I used these:

https://www.amazon.com/Compact-Rele...1492001300&sr=8-3&keywords=Garrison+Grip+Kahr

My biggest complaint is that it doesn't allow for a smooth single action to get the gun into "live" mode. There's a guy on eBay that makes Glock specific trigger stoppers. Those are great. Natural trigger finger action pushes the stopper out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-POPLOC-...723567?hash=item281b00b72f:g:CzwAAOSw3YNXbERY
 
I carry a Kel-tec P32 chambered all the time, have for 16 yrs. And at times carried a Taurus TCP .380 chambered. I love the little P32, has never failed to go bang and is pretty darn accurate little pistol.
 
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