Hellbent11
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One in the pipe at all times! Safety rules and finger off the trigger. I do always take the precaution of emptying the chamber when I get home and store it though.
Hellbent
Hellbent
Sorry, but you are asking me to prove a negative. The burden is on those who claim that it is a problem to provide evidence of that. I point out that throughout most of the 20th Century semi-autois were caried chamber empty. Nobody seems to have reprted or even discussed any of thes problems folks keep offering. If your proof is "what if", I just don't think that is much of a proof.Yes, it is simple, show me how it "worked well" in the past - show me that there were no problems?
No frustration about that. I do get a little frustrated at folks who try to substitute opinon for fact, or those who refuse to recognize historical trends and concepts, and so on.You have stated you are for a chambered round - why the frustration?
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I have tried to address certain questions that were asked, which is something I will point out that many others have failed to do. My point is simple...All conditions of carry have advantages and disadvantages. Each person whould determine which advantgages and disadvantages are applicable to their particular situation and then make an informed choice about what is best for them.Maybe explain your point more effectively so we all can understand your point, because you obviously have not convinced anyone?
Geez, deaf, is it possible for you to try to keep up with your own posts? Here, let me remind why the LEO issue came up: "And there are cases where in a struggle cops have drawn their guns and shot their attackers. They even teach many drills to take a gun back if a BG tries to disarm the defender." That's YOU, deaf. I don't know about you, but the planet I am on peole tend to remember what they wrote for longer than a day.david... SN's class IS FOR CIVILIANS. Gezz man, what planet are you on? His class isn't LEO tactics.
Deaf, there is an interesting concept known as the "phsychological assassin" mindset, where someone with low self esteem continually snipes at those they know are better or smarter than they are, hoping that by tripping them up it makes them look better. You might want to look into it.You need to get out more and understand chanber empty carry has lots of faults for civilians as well as LEO.
Would you like to buy a new gun for some of these single parents I teach? Or will you provide the funds for an elderly widow to go to DTI or some such? It's nice to talk about "buy this and do that" but the reality of life is that lots of folks won't or can't do stuff like that. Do we ignore them or do we try to help them as much as we can within their limits?....if your gun or yourself is too unsafe to carry the gun with loaded chamber get a new gun and more training.
Often it is not the issue of can't stomach it, it becomes an issue of "this fits my situation better". Seems like any time this issue pops up lots of elitism comes crawling out of the shadows---"either carry a gun that I approve of, and carry it the way I think it should be carried, or don't carry at all. Let's ignore the fact that the way you want to carry it has worked well for decades, I know what is best for you."If a guy just can't stomach the idea of a live round in the chamber of their very real handgun they need to either go on home and put it away, get some training, or switch to a revolver.
Each person whould determine which advantgages and disadvantages are applicable to their particular situation and then make an informed choice about what is best for them.