Jim Watson
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Just get a March 2.5-25 and cover all the bases.
18" gong at 1040. Last week, went 8 for 10. 6 and 8 were the misses.what size was the target you had first and second hits on at a thousand yards?
Thanks all.. use is light weight, *all purpose* 308 (if such a thing exists).
I'm really just wondering if a 4-16x40 or 42mm is worth messing with on a 16" 308? If not I'll continue to focus on optics up to 600 yard max.
Like Primary Arms' illuminated ACSS scope. Although I generally avoid made-in-China optics if at all possible--this has proven to be a superb and easily affordable optic.Look at the various makes of 30mm 1x-6xs.
Isn't anyone concerned about weight and bulk?....a handling consideration? Probably depends on intended use which the OP didn't say.
IMO, overkill is a good word to describe what Colonel Cooper used to refer to as a "Moon Scope" mounted on a general purpose long arm, but I'm not sure of the OP's purpose. ... Is a 16" RR carbine accurate and stable enough to take advantage of a variable in the 4-16 range?...Truthfully, I don't know the answer, but I suspect not. I am fairly certain that a "large" telescope will ruin the balance of the little rifle and defeat it's intended purpose. A 2-7 or even smaller would probably get everything out of what the little rifle is capable of and not ruin it's balance and relatively light weight. If it's just a bench target or varmint rifle not intended to be carried or treated rough then as large a scope as wanted would suffice.You want something low-powered, with quality glass, and for better light-gathering preferably a 30mm optic. Look at the various makes of 30mm 1x-6xs.
4x-16x is overkill and, frankly, impractical on an 'all-purpose'/all-around 16" .308. You're basically soliciting opinions on choice of magnified optic for a general utility, compact, short-range weapon.
Save the pricey, high-magnification optics for long-barreled bolt guns where most of your shooting will exceed 400- or 500-yds.
I think probably 90% of the world's optics come out of that one factory--as well as egg rolls. I have an iPhone and I keep wondering if one day it's discovered that a hidden nano chip has been beaming all my info back to China.probability that the Primary and Vortex come out of the same factory
Alright everyone... I ordered a Vortex 1-6x24 on sale from Amazon at $239 (+$89 mount). I do prefer the Primary Arms ACSS reticle ($289), but considering the $50 price advantage of the vortex and the (reputed) probability that the Primary and Vortex come out of the same factory... it seems a no-brainer to go with the Vortex.
probability that the Primary and Vortex come out of the same factory
I think probably 90% of the world's optics come out of that one factory--as well as egg rolls. I have an iPhone and I keep wondering if one day it's discovered that a hidden nano chip has been beaming all my info back to China.
And just about everyone else. LOLMaybe a couple of those trademarks are Primary and Vortex.
My 18 inch Ruger predator loses 200 fps from the 22 inch barrels. It only show 2620 fps, that is not 50 to 60 fps.I don't know how much difference 2 more inches of barrel makes, but my 18" Ruger Predator is about 50-60 fps slower than my 22" rifles.
I can do anything I need to do with a 308 with 6X to 9X on the upper end. I don't see the need for 12X unless you are shooting very small varmints at long range with an extremely accurate rifle. I'd think a 1-6X scope would do fine well past 400 yards, and a 16" barrel will get you well past 400 yards.