Cap and Ball Revolver For Personal and Home Defense

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Don't get me wrong, I love BP guns....
But for self-defense, you're better off using one as a club.
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Do you realize that 45/70 is a BP load?
Along with .45Colt, .44Colt, .44S&W, 45Schofield, 38Colt, 38spl, 50/70, 45/110... along with full cylinders or muzzle loaders & shotgun loads of Black Powder up to and beyond .75" cal. or 10ga, 8ga in chambers with a ball/balls or bullet on top?:cool:
Try to ask anyone that has come to my house with a club if they stayed... ;)
 
I knew it. They travel in packs.
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Ya darn tootin' I got your back, Smokin_Gun!!!
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then you're just playing cowboy and you're not serious about using the gun for self defense.
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But Mykeal, I wanna be a cowboy,baby!!!
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I knew it. They travel in packs.
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Aww Mykeal ... I know you are one of us, go on and say it!

Will this help? The ROA is in my opinion one the the Best 20th Century Original Cap and Ball or Converted Black Powder Revs made... :cool:
Well I tried :rolleyes:
 
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Gatofeo, we open carry here, there is no o.k. corral shootouts, we don't have duels on main street, no one trys to test someone elses "manlihood". we dont carry because we want to look tough or cool or trendy, we carry to stay at the top of the food chain. there is alot of wilderness here and i have yet to meet a domesticated bear, coyote, or mountain lion when fishing or getting my mail. someone just shot a bear a week ago in their back yard less than 1/4 mile from me and it just laughed at the .380 it was shot with and ran away. once in december, 3 times in january and twice in february they spotted coyote in town. i saw one in my yard in feb. i don't have the money to pay for mega mag for carry, i own a few .32 and .38 iver johnsons and they are not viable for bear, i can't afford anything other than what i choose to carry so if you don't think i should carry a .44 black powder then go buy me a 500 mag. and if you think i should only ccw carry, pay for the permit and find a holster i can hide it in because my "ultimate ccw" holster won't cut it. if i wanted to be "cool", i be carryin' a nickle plated nine, yo!
 
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The Remmy guys are gathering. By the way, Suzuki Bruce. I believe you own one of those toy 44's like mine. Do you think beating someone up side the head with it will do more damage than if you just, well, blow them away instead?
 
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i dont know, in '96 i got my head wacked with a baseball bat, in '99 a buddy of mine was shot with vaquero in .45 colt.... he wears a colostomy bag now, i have a scar.... you decide...lol... i think a 2lb gun swung at my head is easier to dodge then a 250grain ball of hot lead traveling at 700 fps aspecially with 5 buddies following it.... now i do agree on the reliability issue of a black powder revolver, if one chamber doesnt go off the next probably will, now if you get a dud in a semiauto....

bang! bang! click! click! click! "oh crap, dud round, uh, uh, uh, rack slide... uhh, its stuck, broken shell? no! sove pipe? what? what is goign on... uh, uh, uh... now what do i do?? POW! lights out....you fail.... glock 17

bang! bang! click! bang! bang! bang!--- you win! -1858 remmy


you cannot beat the accuracy power and reliability of a revolver... they will kill now just as well as they did 150 years ago and the powders are better, the primers are better, the ball is better the guns are better. the reason for the world going to cased ammo is the same reason McDonalds stays in business.. it's quicker and easier...
 
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and actually tim, beating someone to death with a gun would probably just plain make me feel better then shooting them, you get more of the feel for the kill that way...

but then again standing over mr perp. saying to him "you feel that slug in you? i loaded that personally and especially for you. doesn't that make you feel special? now make sure you keep pressure on that, you'll bleed to death slower that way so you'll get to enjoy it more...
 
You beat them all you want, I'll take my chances with the triggers. :D

but then again standing over mr perp. saying to him "you feel that slug in you? i loaded that personally and especially for you. doesn't that make you feel special? now make sure you keep pressure on that, you'll bleed to death slower that way so you'll get to enjoy it more...
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But Bruce, that old style gun might not kill a modern day man....better get a club.:D
 
40 grains of triple 7 powder finely ground behind a 250 grain lead ball traveling at 700+ fps from an 8" barrel... sure it won't... but you arent taking into consideration the fact that most americans are fat so it may not make it to the vitals through all the blubber....
 
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but you arent taking into consideration the fact that most americans are fat so it may not make it to the vitals through all the blubber....
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Don't get me wrong, I love BP guns....
But for self-defense, you're better off using one as a club.
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Hmmmmmmmmmm..................................
 
oh i see what you are getting at... modern man is tougher than the men that lived off the land 150 years ago, that explains why the gun manufactures keep coming out with these mega guns... i guess it started with the .357 and.44 mags then the 50 AE and when that was no longer effective at fat penetration they made the .454 casul, when that stopped working we got the .460 and .500 mags... oh i see. i get it because the 45lc was designed to mimic the black powder .44 loads then the .45 acp came out to mimic the .45lc and as people got lazier and fatter the guns had to evolve too.... oh i get it now...
 
i wonder... what about a conversion to make the remmy dbl action? i was told a long time ago that remington did do the 1858 in double action but only made a handful....
 
I never heard of that but it would be nice to have double action, i might have an effective defense against a modern bad guy.....:D
 
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But for self-defense, you're better off using one as a club.
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No offense to you, my friend, but that is an interesting philosophy you have there, :rolleyes:but I feel somewhat different about the use of my guns. Allow me to further explain my feelings on such words of wisdom:
Bam! Bam!,........Bam! Bam!
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-Bam Bam Rubble
BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!
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-the two guns of Remington Tim:cool:
Bam!!Bam!! Dead!!!Dead!!
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Bam!!Bam!! DEAD!!DEAD!!
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-Bam Bam Rubble and/or any misguided idiot with the faulty intelligence to think they are toys for Bam Bam to play with and in possession of enough irrational judgment to challenge their authenticity as a formidable weapon by forcing me to choose whether to use them as a club or for the purpose they were designed for. Any questions?? Did I effectively make my point??
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here is a little history lesson, jesse james was shot with a glock, in the shootout at the o.k. corral, wyatt earp carried a .357 sig, doc holiday carried a benelli m4, morgan and virgil earp both had .50 desert eagles and annie oakly used a steyer aug. and during both the revolutionary and civil wars the soldiers carried the venerable M-16A3 and SAW...
 
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