Canton OH Police CCW Holder Encounter

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The disciplinary hearing was held. Harless didn't show up. The union pres was there as was their lawyer.

The newschannels tried to get a statement from the city (safety director ?, ie: the person who will make the decision[other position??}) representative, his last name is Mead. He said he was taking everything into consideration.

The police chief is retiring and accepting another city position before the Ohio double dipping law that is on the books gets passed. Hopefully it is retro-active.
 
Seriously....why are all of these bad cities STRAIGHT out of the show "The Wire". I thought that show was totally fake when I first watched it but they got a lot of the political aspect of policing right on second glance.
 
I am inordinately glad he has been fired, but I find it disheartening to see that the "thin blue line" is still sufficiently intact that other officers donated their unused sick time to allow the clown to continue receiving a paycheck long after the city should have stopped paying him. PTSD or not, he was CLEARLY unfit to be wearing a uniform or carrying a gun. The excuse that somebody bit his fingers eight YEARS ago and thereby caused PTSD is not convincing to me, and I'm a Vietnam veteran who might know a little about PTSD.

And if he DID have PTSD for eight years, and the city of Canton didn't pick up on it despite all the previous complaints regarding his behavior -- shame on the city of canton and the Canton PD.
 
My thought mirror Aguila Blanca's to a tee.

Shame on the fellow LEO's for donating their time to Harless. He did nothing but made them and the rest of the Canton PD dept. look bad.

Being a little familiar with the public service system, my gut feeling is Harless's will eventually achieve getting his partial retirement and disability. It's obvious he's been working on not only dodging going to court but getting disability from the onset of this incident as he went out on sick leave almost immediately after this case went public. A sure sign Harless has been around long enough to learn the system.
Too, Mr Allen(the union rep), when talking to the press, wanted it to be well known about Harless and PTSD. Look how many times he mentions it in the article. Want to guess what will be discussed at the appeals hearing.:rolleyes:

I'll go out on a limb and say, combining both his partial retirement and his disability, he'll probably go out on a monthly income equal to an officer putting in his/her full 20yrs....all because everyone that worked around him chose to turn their heads... from his partners, clear up the chain of command, not excluding the Canton prosecutors office that no doubt have seen past dash cam of Harless's actions unbecoming an officer.

Hope I'm wrong...we'll see.
 
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I'll go out on a limb and say, combining both his partial retirement and his disability, he'll probably go out on a monthly income equal to an officer putting in his/her full 20yrs....all because everyone that worked around him chose to turn their heads... from his partners, clear up the chain of command, not excluding the Canton prosecutors office that no doubt have seen past dash cam of Harless's actions unbecoming an officer.
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I won't bet against you. As the saying goes, "The fix is in." You can see it coming from a mile away. It stinks, but that's the way the system works.

And you are correct. It will be possible only because EVERYONE in the Canton PD turned a blind eye to an officer who was obviously a walking time bomb for a long time. His actions should not have been tolerated.

And police officers wonder why we "civilians" don't respect the police. Here's the reason: you don't "police" your own ranks.
 
Quote "...threats of death or violence..." per the Public Safety Director.

Why have criminal charges not been filed against Harless? Had an ordinary citzen made the threats Harless made, they would have been arrested and probably all ready been convicted based on the evidence of the video and witness'.
 
He'll get his pension and full retirement, and laugh all the way to the bank. But, he is NOT a police officer anymore, so the NEXT time he does something this stupid, (which there will be, he has no self control), he will not have the power of the Dept behind him.
 
Sobering thought: If Harless prevails in arbitration/appeal, he will be allowed to retire -- which will then make him eligible to carry a firearm everywhere in the United States under the provisions of the LEOSA.

:EEK:
 
Nothing new on this case that I've read but the city of Canton is back at their, I don't even know what to call it.

Follow this link http://www.ohioccw.org/ and page down to "More Clownery In Canton"

All I can say is unbelievable. Everyone on this forum should read that article.
 
When the police find that the person who was fingered actually has a permit, they'll arrest them for disturbing the peace or disorderly conduct.
 
Just emailed my brothers the new 'gun bounty' program in Canton. Another vote is taking place and it's looking like Canton won't be hosting our family reunion at the Football Hall of Fame again this year....another $4-$5000 out of the Canton
budget. :p
Won't break em but won't help em either. Hope others boycott Canton as well.

Course we did just have an off-duty Ohio State Trooper that was clocked at over 100mph, pulled over and blew a BAC of .16. She didn't go to jail but was let to call a friend to take her home. Wonder if she had a gun in her possession?

Just another example of double standards!
 
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Course we did just have an off-duty Ohio State Trooper that was clocked at over 100mph, pulled over and blew a BAC of .16. She didn't go to jail but was let to call a friend to take her home. Wonder if she had a gun in her possession?

Just another example of double standards!
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Absolutely not!

Just a coincidental convergence of the thin blue line with the principle of "officer discretion." (I keep asking for someone to show me where the statutes of ANY state provide for "officer discretion" but so far I've drawn a blank.)

Some people are just more equal than others, that's all.
 
That's what we call "professional courtesy" down here, and it's the hardest to get rid of, and the one that needs to go first. Public safety professionals should be held to a higher standard, not a lower one.
 
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