Can a Mass resident buy a handgun out of state legally?

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jeepster

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I live in Massachusetts and have not been able to buy any new guns. I could have smith and wesson but I prefer to let them sell to chumps. I want a glock and a beretta but NOOOOOOOOO, they aren't mass compliant. Sig Saur is almost done making their mass compliant guns but I don't like them(grip).
Because of this the prices on used guns are through the roof. I saw a used glock 24 for 700$ and a used cz-75 for 500 dollars. These prices are much higher than when the guns are new.
So my question is, can I legally go to another state and buy a new non-mass compliant handgun with my mass license to carry?
I'd appreciate all the help I can get.
Thanks in advance
Jeepster

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No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

-- Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344
 
I doubt it. IINM, you must be a resident of the state in which you purchase the pistol. Long guns are cool, but handguns baa-aaa-aad.
 
nope

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What if someone in that state of origin purchased it. Later on he discovers that he/she needs the money and wants to sell it to you while he is visiting your house ? Or even make a gift of it to avoid any sales restrictions ?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dark Avenger:
What if someone in that state of origin purchased it. Later on he discovers that he/she needs the money and wants to sell it to you while he is visiting your house ? Or even make a gift of it to avoid any sales restrictions ?[/quote]

This would have to be a very good friend. An employee of the Clintonian Department Formerly Known as Justice might well view this as a strawman purchase, and for this person to bring an unregistered firearm to visit in MA is a nontrivial risk. At the very least, this person could expect to get a visit from the IRS.
 
Firearms aren't registered in this state, only the ltc holder. You can't buy or own a handgun w/o an ltc.
If I only knew someone in a surrounding state with an ltc...

[This message has been edited by jeepster (edited June 20, 2000).]
 
It doesn't matter.

If the handgun was manufactured after June 1998, then it CANNOT be sold in Massachusetts, new or used, by any party, unless it meets the requirements of 940 CMR.

If you want a Glock, you have two options: 1) you buy a used one manufactured before the effect of 940 CMR, June 1998 or 2) you purchase one illegally.



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"... I rejoice that America has resisted [The Stamp Act]. Three millions of people, so dead to all feelings of liberty as to voluntarily submit to being slaves, would have been fit instruments to make slaves of the rest of us." -- William Pitt, British Parliament, December 1765
 
Where do you live in Mass? Although I am not necessarily recommending it, I have seen several shops that are still selling new Berettas, Glock, etc...

Janvs
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jeepster:
Firearms aren't registered in this state, only the ltc holder. You can't buy or own a handgun w/o an ltc.
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This is from the GOAL website:


Request for Massachusetts Registration Records (requires Adobe Acrobat)
Submit this form to the state of Massachusetts to obtain a list of guns they currently have on record as being registered to your name. (Note:
Response to the availability of this form has been so overwhelming that the state has contacted GOAL asking them to "call off their members."
They complain that it is interfering with the time they need to issue licenses!)


The Firearms Record Bureau of the Criminal History Systems Board maintains a database of firearms transactions that thave been reported to the FRB on the FA-1 Reporting Card, FA-2 Registration Card, FA-10 Dealer Book, or the Firearms Sale/Rental/Lease Transaction Form.

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Massachusetts has had firearms registration for years.



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~USP

"... I rejoice that America has resisted [The Stamp Act]. Three millions of people, so dead to all feelings of liberty as to voluntarily submit to being slaves, would have been fit instruments to make slaves of the rest of us." -- William Pitt, British Parliament, December 1765
 
Thanks, USP45 ("Massachusetts has had firearms registration for years"). I used to live in CT; I thought I had been hallucinating. I seem to remember a mandatory 1-year sentence for getting caught with an unregistered firearm (handgun?)...


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Simple solution, Jeepster. Move up here to New Hampshire. Then you can buy whatever you damn well want, and you don't have to pay sales and income tax. Property tax is a bite in the butt, but it probably works out to be less than sales and income after it's all totalled.

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Times have changed, but the nature of man hasn't. That's why I always go to AA, "Alert and Armed". :)
 
Thanks for clearing that up usp45. I just thought that the records were kept by the dealer unless requested. Stupid me.

Anyone near worcester county that wants to sell a glock or a beretta?

I find it hard to help the local dealer keep his business when he jacks his prices like that.
I'm moving. Besides, I can buy beer on Sunday in New Hampshire and smokes don't cost 4 bucks.
Jeepster
 
Jeepster --

i'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your "dealer who jacks up prices like that" is on Rt. 9 in Northboro right?

Give a call to Four Seasons Firearms, they have said that they'll make an effort to find any handgun for Massachusetts residents since the draconian regulations passed.

Within the last two weeks i've seen Glock 26's for $500, so keep looking, they're out there.

Good Luck.

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~USP

"... I rejoice that America has resisted [The Stamp Act]. Three millions of people, so dead to all feelings of liberty as to voluntarily submit to being slaves, would have been fit instruments to make slaves of the rest of us." -- William Pitt, British Parliament, December 1765
 
Jeepster-

I know a FFL in eastern part of the state that might be able to help you. Your email addess isn't listed, if you want his info send me an email.
 
Hey USP45

Rt 9 in Northboro. You aren't the only one who noticed that. I refuse to set foot there. I don't quite understand why they are so blatantly violating the edict. Any idea?

Janvs
 
Janvs-

While i'll still go in there to have a look around, I generally will not purchase anything from them. I have a problem with their business ethics, and their stance on the current gun laws in Massachusetts ("oh i don't worrry much about [940 CMR 16], in a few weeks it will be business as usual again.")

I'd rather not be too specific on this, it's simply my opinions on what i've chatted with them about.

Not to mention that their prices are astronomical, and have been since well before Chapter 180 and 940 CMR 16.00.


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~USP

"... I rejoice that America has resisted [The Stamp Act]. Three millions of people, so dead to all feelings of liberty as to voluntarily submit to being slaves, would have been fit instruments to make slaves of the rest of us." -- William Pitt, British Parliament, December 1765
 
jeepster,
Send me an e-mail and I might be able to help you out. I know someone who has several pre-98 Glocks and a Beretta 92 for sale and they are reasonably priced too. By the way, I haven't caught a keeper yet this year, have you? I caught a 26 incher last week at the JFK Library but that's it so far.

[This message has been edited by patrickt66 (edited June 21, 2000).]
 
See the following:

Coinneach
Moderator posted June 20, 2000 10:59 AM
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I doubt it. IINM, you must be a resident of the state in which you purchase the pistol. Long guns are cool, but handguns baa-aaa-aad.

So far as I know, based on GCA'68, an unlicensed person (private citizen) cannot buy handguns outside their state of residence.

If that part of that piece of legislative stupidity has been changed, Iam unaware of such changes. Whether or not a Mass. dealer could order from an out-of-state dealer, any of the above, either new or used, I for one couldn't say.
 
Thanks for all the feedback

First

Alan and Coinneach are correct. I searched the mass law on their site yesterday and some other states sites and I'm stuck buying in my state.


Next

The rt9 Northboro store is not as bad as the one down the street in Shrewsbury. I was at both last night. One had a severely used llama 45 acp for 300. The other store had the subcompact 10mm glock (model?)refurbed from the factory for 600.

Both stores have let me down as of late but neither are as bad as the one in my hometown on rte 140. That is the guy with the 700 dollar used g24 and the 500$ used cz-75. He also has a stainless ITALIAN made 92fs for 800. I feel sick. Excuse me.

I am going to show my e-mail address. Its good to see there are so many Mass tfler's. Maybe we should have our own shoot. I heard Auburn has a good range.

As far as the Stripers are concerned, only schoolies at the canal, but they are starting to fatten up and hit South Cape beach.
Good Luck
Thanks again
Jeepster

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No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

-- Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344
 
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