California Hi-Caps

I think the keyword is "legally"
My understanding is it is illegal to offer them for sale or allow posession by anybody else. If you had them before the law went into affect you may continue to posess them. You could say the burden of proof is on them and there isn't any tracking on preban magazines to say when you acquired them. I noticed a dealer who refuses to transfer magazines when they do the dros transfer for private parties.
 
The only way it's going to happen is to have the law changed. Or, you could lie, as Mithirium has implied, and risk getting caught.
 
I would never imply lying espesially to the authorities.
Blades dont hold your breath for any big legal reversals in the big CA nanny state.
 
Mithirium - My apologies if I offended you.

You could say the burden of proof is on them and there isn't any tracking on preban magazines to say when you acquired them.

Your chosen words sound like you're suggesting he could go buy some preban magazines out of state and lie about when and where they were aquired.
 
No offense taken, I was more suggesting the rediculousness of the law. Considering that it easily passable by anybody willing to ignore it. However I would never endorse disobedience of such laws as there are serious consequences for breaking them. In a way the high cap mag ban only takes the federal ban one step further by limiting resale of grandfathered magazines. If you think Diane Frankenstein isn't willing to try to inflict this on the rest of the country, you got another thing coming. I can see it now, ATF magazine enforcement Unit, registering all high caps and serializing them just like here in CA *yuck*
 
I have an idea that the law would get changed quickly if we sent feinstein and boxer to stay with the Taliban for a few weeks...like say 104 of them.:D Well, they'd be out of our hair, I wouldn't care to have them back.
 
Hi-caps don't have serial numbers,... hang out at your local action pistol ranges, someone, may be able to point you in the right direction.

It is a felony in California to offer, keep for sale, sell, receive, basically everything except to "OWN" Hi-caps.....
 
Hi-caps don't have serial numbers

9x45, I know i was just illustrating a point that proves they passed another feel good law with no way to prove when the mags were acquired by an individual. Its akin to making drugs leagal to posess but illegal to sell. So they only way they can enforce the law is to look for actual transactions. Oh Well who ever thought gun banning jerks were logical :barf:

Blades I agree lets drop Diane and Barbara over Afganistan they'll frighten OBL into surrender, then they can stay there to start an Afgan Feminist Party. ;)
 
Still, even if you were going to break the law and try to obtain hi-caps in CA because of the law's virtual unenforcability once you possess them, you run the risk, however small, that the person on the other end of the transaction is LE or will report you to authorities. Not necessarily a good risk considering the potential consequences of being unable to vote or keep firearms for the rest of your life.
 
"Does anyone know of a way to legally procure hi-cap mags in California?"

Become a JBT. Even then you theoretically need permission from head thug to buy. This is often broke, but when you police your own . . . . IOW "the fox watching the hen house."

There was some illegal JBT-only AR scams going on in KA a couple of years ago however (buying for personal use, shame shame). They were shut down but the the JBTs were never prosecuted AFIK.
 
Posted by Cuerno,
"Become a JBT. Even then you theoretically need permission from head thug to buy. This is often broke, but when you police your own . . . . IOW "the fox watching the hen house."



What is your problem? Cannot you not discuss an issue here without resorting to BS comments?
 
What is BS about my comments?

Being a JBT in Kalifornia has its privilidges. You can acquire personal weapons and magazines for duty use (like that ain't abused w/ impunity) that an ordinary citizen cannot.

Were the JBTs prosecuted for breaking the law? I had read that they only had to turn the illegally acquired illegal weapons in. If a JBT did get punished in the Kalifornia AR case, please let me know. Like most crimes and other debacles by state rule enforcers, it was hushed up as fast as possible.

If you're upset about the JBT comments, then tough. I don't like cops period. I don't trust them. And I don't believe that they are on my side in any way. Yes that includes you. AFAIC your loyalty is to the state. The state AFAIC is not much better than any other "criminal organization" that uses muscle / thugs to retain its power.
 
What's a JBT?

Cuerno de chivo, I think your position is a little extreme. Although there are crooked cops, and cops who abuse their authority, there are far more that are decent men and women who do a necessary and sometimes dangerous job for all our benefit.

How many cops lost their lives in the 9/11 WTC attack? Around 50 or so, right? These guys weren't interested in using their muscle to retain power.

God bless and protect cops.
 
Have an out-of-state relative buy them and hold them until you leave this f###ing state. If I leave first, I'll buy them. Seriously, it's a felony to obtain them in any manner and the a###ole district attorneys here would love to make an example of anybody they catch doing it.
 
from the CA DOJ

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison

(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, gives or lends, any large-capacity magazine.

dwest, does one year in county or state prison sound like a misdemeanor to you???
 
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