California Considering Outlawing Lead

lead is poison

You know lead is poisonous to wildlife, I know from first hand experiance, in fact every dear I ever ate had died from lead poisoning. Sounds like the can't get our guns so they're going for the ammo. The X bullet is a good alturnative all copper but I don't know were to get it for reloading.
 
I doubt that they will make hunting illegal. There is too much revenue coming in from licences, stamps and tags. And as was mentioned before hunting will still continue by locals and carrying capacities will be exceeded.
 
Lead has to be dissolved in water before it can do any harm and it has to be in huge amounts. People need to get educated before they get excited
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Possibly, but I know of no better way to dissolve it than to grind it up and soak it in acid, like in something's stomach.

We could try an experiment. Have your blood lead level tested. Swallow a 30 cal bullet. Two days later, get your blood lead level tested again.

But you're right, people need to get educated. Facts, not hearsay.
 
You can do a Google on "California Condor Lead" and there are multiple sources indicating that the condors do have lead poisoning and that it is reasonable to assume some of it is coming from shot and bullets.I don't see that it would be a big inconvenience to use solid copper bullets and lead free shot.Might be better to do that preemptive than have some total anti-hunting crusade activated by it.
 
Example?

If lead is so poisonous, why do doctors leave slugs in people sometimes? I have a friend that had a lead pellet from a pellet gun imbedded in the palm of his hand. Doctors told him that trying to remove it would cause more harm then its worth. He has had it there for some thirty years.

Maybe lead is slow acting.:D
 
I'd like to see some analysis of the particular lead. For instance, if the condors had ingested lead from waterfowl, the deer hunters wouldn't be the problem.

Generally, the furry critters clean up gut piles or lost quail/doves before the buzzards have a chance. Buzzards tend to spot natural-cause deaths earlier, if they're out in open areas. Deer are more likely to be killed in brushy or wooded areas, and not as often out in the wide open country with no cover.

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If lead is so poisonous, why do doctors leave slugs in people sometimes?
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Lead is poisonous if ingested (eaten) because it breaks down in stoamch fluids and enters the bloodstream, where it interferes with nervous system function and muscle control. If a piece of lead is lodged in your muscle tissue, it will be quickly encapsulated and will not dissolve to a great extent.

This whole thread is a non-issue. If you check the CA DFG web site, they are not outlawing lead, they are asking hunters to try to minimize leaving lead in carcasses and gutpiles due to the potential for condors to ingest the fragments. Sounds to me like more of an upland game issue than a big game hunting issue. But what do I know?
 
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