BWW Gun Ban Boycott

That's enough for me not to go to B-dubs. But, isn't B-dubs primarily a sports bar? If so, then aren't we already prohibited from carrying there? Just asking.
 
I hate that they've taken this stance but am secretly pleased that I no longer have to endure the sub-par offerings. My wife loves the place which forces me to take her a couple times a month at least. She now however has said she will not subject our family to another psychopaths hunting ground and therefore will support other local establishments instead.

And yes I emailed them on her behalf...
 
Skans, it would depend on state laws.

As mentioned, 51% establishments are a no go in Texas. Which means they derive 51% of their sales from alcohol. They are marked with a big red 51% sign. Not sure bww is one or not. Many restaurant and bars aren't. Bars and liquor stores are. I don't go to 51% establishments
 
Some car dealerships have 30.06 signs. There are interesting nuances. In one place they have non compliant signs. A shopping center in Austin as noncompliant 30.06 signs.

I think they have it both ways - it's posted to scare aware evil gun folks but they know if a person is caught it won't stand up.

There is a TX site with lists of locations and compliance. Hospital signs are usually compliant. But I'm going to the hospital to avoid dying, so it's not an issue.
 
I don't think they exist up here in northern Nevada, and chances that I'd voluntarily walk into a sports bar are nil anyway. I've never been comfortable "boycotting" an establishment that I do no business with, so I won't send an email in this case.

I'm also not fond of casinos, but I would have walked through the local Harrah's Casino to get to the Ichiban, a local Japanese restaurant with teppan tables. Unfortunately, when my husband and I went there, we found great big signs on the front doors that explicitly forbade even people with concealed firearms permits from carrying in the establishment. I phoned the restaurant and asked if it was possible to enter the restaurant without going through the casino, and it wasn't. I asked the guards whether the policy applied to people just passing through to the restaurant, and they said yes. :/ So I don't go to the Ichiban, and I wrote them a letter and told them why.

The odd thing is that as best I know, *none* of the other casinos in and around Reno have that policy, although most of them in Las Vegas do. You'd think Harrahs, which like most casinos these days is loosing money, wouldn't want to loose customers over this....
 
I don't live in Nevada, but have carried there and have looked up the rules. If a casino has a "No Guns" sign, it's my understanding that it is unenforceable. If someone spots your gun, they can ask you to leave, at which point you must, or you can be arrested for misdemeanor trespassing. The only exception is carrying in buildings that are specifically prohibited by law.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/nevada.pdf

That should have the info you need...and of course, since I don't live in Nevada, it's entirely possible that I missed something and I could be wrong. :)
 
In Oregon it's pretty much as Gaerek stated. Postings on businesses are of no consequence but if you're found to be carrying (your bad anyways) and are asked to leave it's either leave or be trespassed...
 
Gaerek is quite right about the laws in Nevada regarding concealed carry permit holders. I can't carry in a government building or a school, but private businesses can only ask me to leave. Their notices do not otherwise have force of law. But they do have force of moral authority. As much as I don't like Harrah's policy or attitudes towards those who carry a firearm for self-defense, I'm not going to just ignore their stated rules.

Nor will I miss the opportunity to tell them this, clearly and unmistakeably, so they know that those rules are costing them a customer.
 
Here's what I sent them:

Directors:

You have apparently decided to ban guns in your establishments. That's too bad.

It means I and my family will no longer be able to dine in a restaurant we otherwise have always enjoyed.

Perhaps it should be brought to your attention that such "gun-free" locations have been the sites of almost every mass killing in recent years. Coming to your establishment and leaving my legally carried handgun at home is simply not an option.

I understand the emotions driving this decision, but you have made a mistake, and I won't allow my family to be targets because of your inability to withstand a bit of public pressure.

Good luck. If you change your plans, we'll be back.

Thanks to the OP for providing the link.
 
Has anyone ever heard of a place falsely claiming to be a "51%" establishment?, rather than putting up the full "official" no-guns sign?

I've been to the Kimball Art Museum in Fort Worth many times, and while their buffet restaurant *does* serve alcohol, I can't think that I've ever actually seen anybody order alcohol there, and considering what they charge for food, I can't believe that they're actually making 51% of their income from alcohol sales.
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My understanding of this, which is just from casual conversations with different bartenders, is that they just get a giant package of signs from TABC and most bar owners just post everything in the package without having the first clue what most of them mean.

I do know you can actually complain to TABC about improperly posted 51% signs and they will look into it.

A more important issue is that portion of the law is drafted very poorly. Literally interpreted, you don't even have to receive notice or knowledge that the place receives more than 51% of its revenue through alcohol sales to be in violation of the CHL prohibition. Hopefully, no judge would actually interpret it that way.
 
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