Bush will declare Martial law?

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Well, I will note here: An Executive Order carries force of law as soon as it is penned. There is no set mechanism in place to stop an EO. You CAN take it to court and fight it, anyone can, and once someone did and won, but that is problematical. If a POTUS pens an EO giving himself dictatorial powers based on some semi-palatable excuse, and the military will support him, AND a fawning CONgress of his same party at least stays silent then, well, we have us a dictatorship.

What are you going to do about it? I'll tell you what: Nothing.

I don't for a moment believe Shrub will do this. I DO believe someone will, someday, and for that reason find the existence of the E.O., with no specific method in place to oppose the concept, unacceptable.
 
Yup. George told me he was gonna do this when I was listening to his weekly "Insider's Four-One-One" on the private frequency I get on my tinfoil hat. Sort of like they did here in MO, after the Uncivil War. Yup,i agree.It's unfortunate the Russian people of 1917 failed to receive their shipment of tin-foil hats on time.They may have been more "tuned in" to Lennin's true intentions. I understand the jews had similar "shipment" problems in Hitler's Germany.;)
 
Actually Odd-Job, I was kind of hoping you would give us some specifics.

I asked you several questions to which you answered with an ambiguous, "if the present course of events continue it is unlikely our Country will see the end of this decade." What present course, exactly, are we on?

This country is pretty polarized along idealogical lines at the moment. What makes you think that 50% of America would stand for Bush not leaving the White House?

Bush is losing support from his own base, due in large part to his politics and fiscal attitudes. Add this growing base to those of the left. Without Martial Law, Bush doesn't have the ability to cancel elections. Such an action would precipitate a civil war. Martial Law would not result from such.

Further, given the military, do you really think they would follow the commands of a (now) non-elected President? Don't rely upon Katrina. It was an isolated incident, where Martial Law was appropriately and lawfully declared.

So what is the trigger? Specifics. No generalities or ambiguous scenarios. What specific events would lead to such internal chaos that would shut down the civil courts? Not in a few isolated jurisdictions, but throughout the entire US... Remembering, that until such happens, a declaration of Martial Law is invalid on its face.
 
Hey invs, my tin foil turban told me to "Kill Whitey". I guess that means I have to shoot half of me.....which half tho..?
 
Honest to God true story that happened here in Houston last Friday (July 21/06). I'll keep it short:

A 58 year white guy robbed a dry cleaners, was spotted, and a 2 hour chase ensued.
At the end of the chase, the guy had his tires sliced by a tack strip and drove into a water filled ditch (bayou).

The guy was at a standoff with SWAT and threatened to kill himself whereby he put a gun to his own head. And this is the absolutely true part that I am NOT making up; the local girl reporter ACTUALLY said, live on the air, word for word: "It looks like he's taken himself hostage".

I was just about rolling on the floor laughing by that point with the mental image of the guy pointing a gun at his own head and saying: "Don't come any closer or the white guy gets it!" (I think that was a punchline for some joke I heard some time ago, but the part about what the reporter said is absolutely true!)

It was funny at the time...

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Actually Odd-Job, I was kind of hoping you would give us some specifics.

I asked you several questions to which you answered with an ambiguous, "if the present course of events continue it is unlikely our Country will see the end of this decade." What present course, exactly, are we on?

This country is pretty polarized along idealogical lines at the moment. What makes you think that 50% of America would stand for Bush not leaving the White House?

Bush is losing support from his own base, due in large part to his politics and fiscal attitudes. Add this growing base to those of the left. Without Martial Law, Bush doesn't have the ability to cancel elections. Such an action would precipitate a civil war. Martial Law would not result from such.

Further, given the military, do you really think they would follow the commands of a (now) non-elected President? Don't rely upon Katrina. It was an isolated incident, where Martial Law was appropriately and lawfully declared.

So what is the trigger? Specifics. No generalities or ambiguous scenarios. What specific events would lead to such internal chaos that would shut down the civil courts? Not in a few isolated jurisdictions, but throughout the entire US... Remembering, that until such happens, a declaration of Martial Law is invalid on its face.
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Patere legem, quam ipse tulisti. We are on the road to a Dictator-ship,historically most democracy's end that way.The U.S. government now has more information on and power over the citizenry than at any other time in our history.Add to that 0 security for our borders,multi- culturalism,Marxist and Fascist politics,power and money mad politicians,the FED.reserve fraud and their international banker masters that have bankrupted our Nation.As far as 50% of the population opposing martial law goes,who cares?,their not going to do anything about it anyway,people could care less about each other nowadays.They don't even know their own neighbor anymore let alone the neighborhood they live in.You couldn't get a band-aid let alone ask them to stand shoulder to shoulder with you in the kind of fighting that would make Baghdad look like mary popins having a bad hair day.There will be some fighting in the military,but nothing the pentagon can't handle.Martial law is never appropiate nor lawful.Just because Katrina was isolated doesn't mean it won't happen again.Why would a dictator follow the rulings of a civil court?.Well there you have it as i see it.
 
Hey invs, my tin foil turban told me to "Kill Whitey". I guess that means I have to shoot half of me.....which half tho..?
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There's only one sensible way to do this, Mac. Go buy the biggest, cheapest plastic mirror you can find. Put it up against a safe backstop, and then try and beat the slower half- whichever one that is.

'Course you'll have to clean the mess up when you're done, but I predict that the exercise will be threaputic, at the very least.;)
 
"They don't even know their own neighbor anymore let alone the neighborhood they live in.You couldn't get a band-aid..."

It's not like that where I live. Not...at...all!!! Even the folks that move away still come by to visit. One of them visits my neighbor once a year and used to live in my house - up until 1970. Heck, Doris Buffet, Warren's sister, used to send my neighbor a gift every so often for keeping an eye on the tenants in a house she owned.

Then there's the yearly block party.

Have you even introduced yourself to your neighbors?

John
 
Oh please. This is such utter bull****!

The same kind of crap was bandied about during the closing years of Clinton's term, and it was as much bull**** back then as it is now.

Mouthbreathing freak festival... :mad:
 
"Well there you have it as i see it."

What can I say to that rant.

I was going to say something stronger than that, but I relented at the last moment and attempted to respond in a calm, measured manner.

John
 
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