Ok let me see if I get you here. The congressional testimony isn't reliable because it came from a Bush administration guy and goverment officials need not be trusted. AND the personal experiences of those here aren't valid because there is no OFFICIAL proof. The government aperent fabricated an elaborate hoax to fake:
— Ohio trucker Iyman Faris pleaded guilty May 1, 2003, to providing material support to terrorists. He also conspired to derail a train near Washington, D.C., and use acetylene torches to sever the Brooklyn Bridge's cables, plunging it into the East River.
— Jemaah Islamiya (JI) agent Rusman "Gun Gun" Gunawan was convicted of transferring money to bomb Jakarta's Marriott Hotel, killing 12 and injuring 150.
— Hambali, Gunawan's brother and ringleader of JI's October 2002 Bali nightclub blasts, killed 202 and wounded 209.
— Suspected al-Qaida agent Majid Khan, officials say, provided money to JI terrorists and plotted to assassinate Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, detonate U.S. gas stations, and poison American water reservoirs.
— Jose Padilla, who trained with al-Qaida in Afghanistan, was convicted of providing material support to terrorists and conspiring to kidnap, maim, and murder people overseas.
— Malaysian Yazid Sufaat, an American-educated biochemist and JI member, reportedly provided hijackers Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi housing in Kuala Lumpur during a January 2000 9/11 planning summit. He also is suspected of employing "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui.
John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer who witnessed the interrogation......
a detailed hoax complete with guilty pleas and convictions, AND ALL to keep a tool that is 'not effective but useful........
Now consiracy theories are one thing but...........
Your truly failing. Tough I'm sure but it would have been FAR more productive and easier on your credibility to have said by now what is clear to the rest of us.........your wrong..........S'MORE
Gotta eat some dinner. Can't WAIT to read what you pull out to further your now painfully strained arguement.
Try a sidestep or pick out a sentence and ignore the rest......Nah, that would be predictable, how about changing the subject! Rape, testicale shock, and crucifiction have been used so something fresh please.
BRB (Can hardly wait!)