Bush commits a crime!!

it is my sincere belief that any of our bravest would be able to kick the ever lovin' shi'ite out of any bug infested lowlife that accosted him/her on the street
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Some points to consider:

1.Multiple attackers.

2.Disabled Vets.

3. Attackers with military experience (unemployed ex-Marines?)
 
No, the anti-gun laws of DC do not apply to the President any more than they apply to the Secret Service Agents, or any of the many Fed LEOs in DC.

And yes, the President has special rights and responsibilities. He is, after all, the only US civillian who is given a hand salute by US service members.
 
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I think the real issue is that the laws forbiding the possession of arms
in DC is what is illegal.

Not only that....I am pretty sure he has a bunch of people around him carrying concealed weapons :eek:
 
"Ever hear of the first ammendment???"

Ever crack a dictionary to read the definition of slander?

With that information, you may be able to fanthom why slander isn't protected speech.
 
Yep, ever hear of the Supreme Court and it's case law on the Constitution?
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Without "case law" incrementalism wouldn't work - one more bad decision based upon the misreading of another bad decision which was itself based upon another bad decision ad infinitum. Which is why the Constitution itself was NOT built upon CITED case law. The founders thought it wiser to throw that idea out and write it based upon COMMON SENSE. Still a good idea today, but one which has again been abandoned in favor of legalspeak.
 
denfoote, no part of the Constitution or Bill of Rights, specifically the First Amendment, makes slander or libel legal.

Just what part of the Constitution proclaims the President must be a civilian? Even if a civlian at the time of election, the Constitution does state that he President becomes the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy (now referred to as the Armed Forces) and as such is a member of the military.

To be President, the Constitution states that in order to be elected, one must be at least 35 years old. Also, each candidate must be a natural-born U.S. citizen and have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years.

FYI, in 1948 Eisenhower retired as army chief of staff to become president of Columbia University in New York.

So, if Bush is breaking some law by being in possession of a pistol taken from Saddam, just what law is he breaking? Remember, the question is what law is HE breaking. Also remember that the gun is NOT his, but would belong to the Office of President or the White House as a museum, if in fact ownership has actually transferred from the military and the gun isn't actually on loan.
 
Still a good idea today, but one which has again been abandoned in favor of legalspeak.
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Agreed, but it was thrown out by the guys who WROTE the Constitution when they established the Sumpreme Court.
 
So, if Bush is breaking some law by being in possession of a pistol taken from Saddam, just what law is he breaking? Remember, the question is what law is HE breaking. Also remember that the gun is NOT his, but would belong to the Office of President or the White House as a museum, if in fact ownership has actually transferred from the military and the gun isn't actually on loan
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I heard Bush state yesterday that the gun was the property of the US government.

Exemptions to the DC pistol law


TEXT
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA OFFICIAL CODE 2001 EDITION
DIVISION IV. CRIMINAL LAW AND PROCEDURE AND PRISONERS.
TITLE 22. CRIMINAL OFFENSES AND PENALTIES.
SUBTITLE VI. REGULATION AND POSSESSION OF WEAPONS.
CHAPTER 45. WEAPONS AND POSSESSION OF WEAPONS.
§ 22-4505. Exceptions to § 22-4504.


TEXT (a)

(a) The provisions of § 22-4504 shall not apply to marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen or other duly appointed law enforcement officers, including special agents of the Office of Tax and Revenue, authorized in writing by the Deputy Chief Financial Officer for the Office of Tax and Revenue to carry a firearm while engaged in the performance of their official duties, and criminal investigators of the Office of the Inspector General, designated in writing by the Inspector General, while engaged in the performance of their official duties, or to members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps of the United States or of the National Guard or Organized Reserves when on duty, or to the regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive such weapons from the United States, provided such members are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice,or to officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed pistol, or to any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person having in his or her possession, using, or carrying a pistol in the usual or ordinary course of such business, or to any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business or in moving goods from one place of abode or business to another.


TEXT (b)

(b) The provisions of § 22-4504 with respect to pistols shall not apply to a police officer who has retired from the Metropolitan Police Department, if the police officer has registered a pistol and it is concealed on or about the police officer.


http://dccode.westgroup.com/Find/De...07&VR=2.0
 
Right, the gun would not belong personally to Bush, as suggested by denfoote, and as such it would not be that Bush himself is breaking any laws.

Denfoote, find your copy of the Constitution yet?
 
I'm not sure, but technically, I don't think the White House is considered to be under the control or purview of Washington, DC, or the local laws.

I believe that legally it is considered to be a Federal reservation, just like Ft. McNair.
 
Ummmmmmmm..... interesting. how would some
of you deal with the thousands of weapons and other
artifacts in the households across this nation that were
taken by US Soldiers in previous wars? I am all for these
soldiers taking souvineers by the way.
 
I'm not sure, but technically, I don't think the White House is considered to be under the control or purview of Washington, DC, or the local laws.
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And conversely, President Bush does not have any control over the local laws of D.C., any more than he has those of NYC.
 
joab

The gun is not Dub's personal property it is the property of the Federal goverment. When he leaves office it will be archived just like all the other official gifts that have been given to all the other presidents in the past.
I agree that this is the property of the citizens of the U.S. so how would putting it in the museum of a private enterprise like the NRA museum even be remotely proper.Maybe the Smithsonian
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Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

WE HAVE A WINNAH!!!!

After that post, all others to follow lose all meaning.
 
Denfoote,

Get a life! Turn off talk radio, leave your parents basement and take off the tinfiol hat man! The entire thread is well beyond absurd!
 
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