Bullseye Weapon
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It is possible to get a disability waiver to use the nonshooting hand. I know a friend who applied and recieved this waiver because of the limited rotation of his right thumb due to an injury. A permanent disability to his right hand. He is allowed to use the left hand to cock the revolver as other posters have described provided he displays the waiver to the line officers prior to shooting.
Thumb cocking
I received a note yesterday from Brian Zins who is in charge of pistol competitions for the NRA (and was 2007 Nat'l Pistol Champion).
Cocking the pistol with the non-shooting hand IS legal (Probably not news to John).
I'm trying to get a sense of how the shooter keeps the hand available for cocking without slowing down the shooting. A pic would be helpful. Maybe a video if anyone knows of one.
Pete
I received a note yesterday from Brian Zins who is in charge of pistol competitions for the NRA (and was 2007 Nat'l Pistol Champion).
Cocking the pistol with the non-shooting hand IS legal (Probably not news to John).
I'm trying to get a sense of how the shooter keeps the hand available for cocking without slowing down the shooting. A pic would be helpful. Maybe a video if anyone knows of one.
Pete
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I'd also like to know how you can cock the revolver with one hand, while holding it and firing it with the other, and not have that construed as "artificial support", especially if you leave the non-firing hand up near the revolver so it's difficult for someone to see clearly what you are doing. I think it would give any line judge a headache trying to figure out if you did something illegal or not. In the ten second rapid fire, using the non-firing hand would be a hindrance and not a help.
Did Brian say if they were going to clarify the rules and make a change in the next rule book, or is this another "well a NRA guy told me this" type rule? We've had too many of those in the past and it just leads to confusion especially when it overlaps between NRA rules and CMP rules. Luckily the CMP does not have any revolver matches.
"Did Brian say if they were going to clarify the rules and make a change in the next rule book"
He wrote that the rules committee had discussed this idea just last week (two weeks ago now).
I have a similar view about the helping hand during the rapid strings. I'd really like to see how people go about it.
The big difficulty, Brian wrote, would be in the event that the shooter had alibi; the R.O. might easily see the second hand as an attempt to clear the gun.
Pete
He wrote that the rules committee had discussed this idea just last week (two weeks ago now).
I have a similar view about the helping hand during the rapid strings. I'd really like to see how people go about it.
The big difficulty, Brian wrote, would be in the event that the shooter had alibi; the R.O. might easily see the second hand as an attempt to clear the gun.
Pete
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NAKing,
Welcome to the deep end of the pool
I've only been shooting BE pistol (or ANY pistol for that matter) for about 20 months, and I've learned a few things - just a few, mind you...
I strongly suggest you take the majority of your budget and buy a quality .22 pistol. My current pistol is a High Standard Victor, made in Texas. The Texas-made guns are reportedly "iffy" as to quality and are notorious for feeding problems, Mine works fine - I've heard that others have guns that won't shoot at all.
I suggest you start out with a Victor (or other military grip High Standard) made in either Hamden, Conn (first choice) or New Haven (2nd choice). Guns made in either location will outshoot you for the rest of your life, just as they have likely out shot their previous owners for theirs.
I made the "mistake", if you will, of starting off with an inexpensive 22 "just to see if I would stick with it". I bought a Browning Buckmark, and after several iterations of polishing this and tweaking that, I had a gun that I managed to shoot an 832/900 with. Not a bad score for someone shooting a year or so, but at that point, I was likely shooting at the upper limit of the gun. I'm now shooting closer to Master scores, and the fact that I don't is NOT my gun's fault, but mine. I trust my gun to hit point of aim every time, something I couldn't do with the Buckmark as I got better. I do keep the Buckmark in the range box for a loaner to new shooters - it's more than good enough for that.
So take the majority of your budget and get a good .22. Take the rest and get ammo and range time. BTW, I'm shooting Fiocchi, Eley Sport, and Federal 714 standard velocity ammo, none if which costs more than $3 a box and it all works great in my gun. You WILL have to go through several different ammos to find which one(s) your pistol likes, and once you do, buy it by the case so you don't have to worry about running out at the range, and I recommend NOT shooting high velocity ammo - the additional speed doesn't do anything for your accuracy, and can actually cause problems with some pistols.
All the best,
Rob
Welcome to the deep end of the pool
I've only been shooting BE pistol (or ANY pistol for that matter) for about 20 months, and I've learned a few things - just a few, mind you...
I strongly suggest you take the majority of your budget and buy a quality .22 pistol. My current pistol is a High Standard Victor, made in Texas. The Texas-made guns are reportedly "iffy" as to quality and are notorious for feeding problems, Mine works fine - I've heard that others have guns that won't shoot at all.
I suggest you start out with a Victor (or other military grip High Standard) made in either Hamden, Conn (first choice) or New Haven (2nd choice). Guns made in either location will outshoot you for the rest of your life, just as they have likely out shot their previous owners for theirs.
I made the "mistake", if you will, of starting off with an inexpensive 22 "just to see if I would stick with it". I bought a Browning Buckmark, and after several iterations of polishing this and tweaking that, I had a gun that I managed to shoot an 832/900 with. Not a bad score for someone shooting a year or so, but at that point, I was likely shooting at the upper limit of the gun. I'm now shooting closer to Master scores, and the fact that I don't is NOT my gun's fault, but mine. I trust my gun to hit point of aim every time, something I couldn't do with the Buckmark as I got better. I do keep the Buckmark in the range box for a loaner to new shooters - it's more than good enough for that.
So take the majority of your budget and get a good .22. Take the rest and get ammo and range time. BTW, I'm shooting Fiocchi, Eley Sport, and Federal 714 standard velocity ammo, none if which costs more than $3 a box and it all works great in my gun. You WILL have to go through several different ammos to find which one(s) your pistol likes, and once you do, buy it by the case so you don't have to worry about running out at the range, and I recommend NOT shooting high velocity ammo - the additional speed doesn't do anything for your accuracy, and can actually cause problems with some pistols.
All the best,
Rob
darkgael
Brian and the others are also going to have to reconcile this rule for disabled shooters:
Reading this rule, disabled shooters cannot use the non-firing hand to cock the pistol. They probably forgot about this rule when they were discussing it, which is not surprising.
Brian and the others are also going to have to reconcile this rule for disabled shooters:
Reading this rule, disabled shooters cannot use the non-firing hand to cock the pistol. They probably forgot about this rule when they were discussing it, which is not surprising.