Crankylove
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If I build with a barrel less than 16" and put stock on the buffer tube it is not a SBR it is a illegally configured pistol.
That may be, according to your state laws, but, BATF is going to look at it differently.
If I build with a barrel less than 16" and put stock on the buffer tube it is not a SBR it is a illegally configured pistol.
This thread is not about Michigan law. And your post made no mention of Michigan law. You simply stated your specific state law as if it applied universally.rep1954 said:rep1954 said:You can constuct a registered pistol into a rifle configuration but it is still a pistol.I live in the state of Michigan and have purchased 4 stripped AR15 lowers and each time they were registered as pistols. If I sell one of the lowers in the state of Michigan no matter what configuration it is in at the time I am selling a registered pistol lower. No matter how I configure the lower legal or illegal the lower is still a pistol lower. If I build with a barrel less than 16" and put stock on the buffer tube it is not a SBR it is a illegally configured pistol.Theohazard said:Nope. Federal law would consider it a rifle at that point.
what would be the longest barrel I can put on my ar pistol? can i put a 14.5 inch barrel on it and still still call it a pistol?
No, this whole thread is about federal law and ATF regulations. You came in and posted this:rep1954 said:By the way we aren't talking about Federal law you are.
That is wrong, the ATF would consider it a rifle.rep1954 said:You can constuct a registered pistol into a rifle configuration but it is still a pistol.
Theohazard said:You can assemble it as either a pistol or a rifle. Keep in mind that if you assemble it as a rifle first then it can never be made into a pistol
I live in the state of Michigan and have purchased 4 stripped AR15 lowers and each time they were registered as pistols. If I sell one of the lowers in the state of Michigan no matter what configuration it is in at the time I am selling a registered pistol lower. No matter how I configure the lower legal or illegal the lower is still a pistol lower. If I build with a barrel less than 16" and put stock on the buffer tube it is not a SBR it is a illegally configured pistol.
No, you didnt miss anything, and therein lies the rub. How can they ever prove anything? How can you really ever prove anything?...and who is going to know what upper was installed on it first? Did I miss something somewhere?
Probably nobody, not unless you tell them. It's a pretty hard thing to enforce, that's for sure.weblance said:...and who is going to know what upper was installed on it first?Theohazard said:You can assemble it as either a pistol or a rifle. Keep in mind that if you assemble it as a rifle first then it can never be made into a pistol
Correct. Sorry, I was apparently unclear in my previous post; I meant it doesn't matter what kind of upper you install on it when you're making a pistol. But yes, you do need some kind of upper and barrel, otherwise it's just a receiver.AK103K said:Stock or not, its not a rifle or a pistol without the upper.
A stocked lower isnt a rifle, nor is a lower with a pistol tube on it a pistol either.