No ATF regulation limits the length of a pistol bbl.iceman320 what would be the longest barrel I can put on my ar pistol? can i put a 14.5 inch barrel on it and still still call it a pistol?
100% absolutely and totally wrong.weblance Its a pistol when the lower is logged as a pistol on the 4473.
Yup. I went through this last year at this time when I picked up a couple of lowers for pistol builds.100% absolutely and totally wrong.
An AR lower is recorded on the 4473 as "Other firearm", meaning it is neither handgun or long gun. Read the instructions on the 4473
Again, 100% absolutely and totally wrong.weblance Interesting that the lower is classified as "other firearm" when things like virgin Ruger 10/22 receivers can be listed as pistols.
ATF regs are clear........firearm frames and receivers are NOT handguns or long guns. THEY ARE OTHER FIREARMS.
Good grief............it's not wrong and obviously you didn't read the instructions on the 4473.Old Bill Dibble Quote:
100% absolutely and totally wrong.
An AR lower is recorded on the 4473 as "Other firearm", meaning it is neither handgun or long gun. Read the instructions on the 4473.
No. This is wrong.
Wrong again.Quote:
“Other”
refers to frames, receivers and other firearms that are not either handguns or
long guns (rifles or shotguns), such as firearms having a pistol grip that expel
a shotgun shell, or National Firearms Act (NFA) firearms.
Now you could register an AR lower as an NFA weapon but that would require registering it as an NFA firearm with the requisite paperwork.
100% wrong. Flat wrong. So wrong it defies common sense. So wrong that you shouldn't post about anything to do with firearms law ever again.You can also register a 10/22 receiver as a pistol, rifle or other as well.
Guess what? Once again.......WRONG.How you register it makes a huge difference later on as you can not legally turn a rifle in to a pistol but you can do the reverse.
You and Weblance need to take turns reading to each other.Weblance is correct and AK's State Police are wrong. But gotta ask why are the State Police nosing about in 4473's anyway? There may be some funky state law that requires registration in certain way but this would be on top of Federal guidelines.
Sorry, but this ATF regulation is crystal clear....if people bother to read it.SkansQuote:
ATF regs are clear........firearm frames and receivers are NOT handguns or long guns. THEY ARE OTHER FIREARMS.
Regardless of who is right or wrong, one thing is certain, ATF regs are never clear. If they were clear, then AR lower receivers would simply be classified as "chunk of metal, plastic or whatever with holes and stuff milled into it"
Not according to Federal law & ATF regulations.rep1954 You can constuct a registered pistol into a rifle configuration but it is still a pistol.
Please name one state where the sale of a pistol is impossible.If you go to sell said pistol you must follow your state laws for the sell of a pistol which range from nothing to impossible across the nation.
No. A new lower is always logged on the 4473 as an "other".weblance said:Its a pistol when the lower is logged as a pistol on the 4473.
Nope. Any dealer who lists a new 10/22 receiver as a pistol is an idiot. It's an "other", period.weblance said:Interesting that the lower is classified as "other firearm" when things like virgin Ruger 10/22 receivers can be listed as pistols.
Dogtown Tom might not always give the most tactful responses, but he's 100% right here.weblance said:OK WHATEVER
You obviously haven't bothered to read the relevant ATF regs on this subject, they're extremely clear.Skans said:Regardless of who is right or wrong, one thing is certain, ATF regs are never clear.
Nope. Federal law would consider it a rifle at that point.rep1954 said:You can constuct a registered pistol into a rifle configuration but it is still a pistol.
Originally Posted by rep1954
You can constuct a registered pistol into a rifle configuration but it is still a pistol.
Nope. Federal law would consider it a rifle at that point.