Buffalo Bore boasts bogus bullets?

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So I bought a few boxes of Buffalo Bore ammo on sale from Cabela's a little while ago...mostly heavy hardcast .44 and .357 mag, but also one box of their "Tactical Short Barrel Lower Recoil Lower Flash" 158 grain .357 magnum jacketed hollow points to take for a test spin. No details on their website about the type of bullet used (just says "jacketed hollow point"), but the photo accompanying the product looks like this:

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When they arrive, what's in the box (which is correctly labeled) looks like this:

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So what gives? Only way to contact BB from their website is to leave a message, which I did several weeks ago, leaving my email address for a reply. Still waiting. I'd certainly like to hear from them about why the difference. The website photo looks like they could be Gold dots? Don't know what the heck ended up coming to my house.

By the way, I haven't made it out to shoot any of the loads yet...to bloody cold here, and the targets will still be in season in March.
 
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I can't see the photo either, but they make ammunition, not bullets. If their supplier couldn't provide what was pictured they probably had to substitute another brand.
 
one box of their "Tactical Short Barrel Lower Recoil Lower Flash" 158 grain .357 magnum jacketed hollow points
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I also bought a box of this and it is as advertised... like the first picture shows.

I can't see the 2nd pic either.

Jim
 
Hmmm. Let's try something different. The two loads (larger picture is the stuff I got):
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I personally like the exposed lead nose for .38 special work. I'd be a little pissy if my .357 loads showed up like that though. Those bullets are outstanding at .38 velocities. At .357 speeds they might be grenades :mad:.
 
Hrm. Well, to be fair this is BB's line of lower-horsepower "tactical" 357s, so they might very well hold up OK at that speed range. At full-house 357 speeds, yeah, that won't work out real well. "Grenade" is likely accurate.

Still, if I see a picture of Gold Dot slugs, I expect Gold Dots. Not cool.
 
Still, if I see a picture of Gold Dot slugs, I expect Gold Dots. Not cool.
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hmmm nothing says they are Gold Dot Hollow Point bullets. As for the ammunition received, they look to me as though they might be Speer JHP bullets. If someone wants Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point bullets, then that person needs to buy ammunition that specifies Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point bullets.

I guess some folks enjoy speculation about what they will get, create an expectation, then get upset if their expectaions are not met. Seems like basic human behavior to me.

I speculate that JHP is different from GDHP and have bought both. So my speculation would have been the ammunition recived was what accually was received. If I had actually received GDHP ammunition, I would have been pleasantly surprised, even shocked.

If it is Speer JHP bullets, I would not be thinking there was a problem. As I understand it, the Speer JHP has been around a while and is well respected in the ammunition reloading field.
 
I'm with the OP...what is pictured is what should be sent unless it's clearly a representative photo.

It's never a problem to get an email saying *Currently backordered at supplier, expected delivery date x/x/xx". Lack of communication is poor business, misrepresentation is bad business.
 
Well, you bought them "to take for a test spin." There's your answer... they're not what they're advertised to be. I wouldn't screw around with it -- just go shoot them up and cross them off your list for future buys.
 
they make ammunition, not bullets. If their supplier couldn't provide what was pictured they probably had to substitute another brand.
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That's what company does I have heard this complaint before .
 
Poor advertising on Cabela's and BB's behalf.

There are distinct differences between jacketed hollowpoint and semi-jacketed hollowpoint bullets. SJHP features an exposed lead hollowpoint cavity; JHP bullets have copper all the way up to the hollowpoint opening with no exposed lead.

SJHP bullets are generally intended for revolvers, and JHP are intended for semi-autos



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Well, you bought them "to take for a test spin." There's your answer... they're not what they're advertised to be. I wouldn't screw around with it -- just go shoot them up and cross them off your list for future buys.
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I concur..

Add Double Tap ammo to the list as well
 
Thanks for the sundry replies.

...just go shoot them up and cross them off your list for future buys
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Indeed, sir.

I guess some folks enjoy speculation about what they will get, create an expectation, then get upset if their expectaions are not met. Seems like basic human behavior to me.
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Umm...speculation? There's a picture on the website that doesn't match what was delivered. That's not speculation, nor an imagined expectation. If BB is using a stock picture on the website for lots of different loads, they need to be more explicit that this is so, and aware that otherwise folks will expect what's in the picture.

Bottom line is the stuff sent may work just dandy, but it makes the consumer lose a bit of confidence in the vendor when what you see isn't what you get.
 
I've seen two other ammo web sites that use a representative picture for several different loads in the same caliber. The description details are what count when you put it in your cart.
 
I guess I'm mostly curious to hear if anyone else has purchased this particular load from BB and what came in the box. Is this the standard and the website is just sloppy with an incorrect photo, or did they have to substitute something else for some period of time?
 
Let's be clear on something: Cor-Bon uses what looks like this exact same projectile with their 125gr "full house" load running about 1,450fps from the faster 4" barrels (recent S&W, any Ruger). And it has a good rep for expansion down to 2" barrels, so call that worst case, 1,300fps (for the Cor-Bon variant).

This stuff is a little slower than Cor-Bon's load but, still ought to work OK. Possibly as well or better than the Gold Dot meant to work at 1,300fps+.

BUT, let's also remember that the "Gold Dot picture" doesn't just show up at Midway or Cabella's or whatever website. It's also on Buffalo Bore's site:

http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=107
 
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