Oscar,
I see you are fairly new here so I’ll take it easy on you, in spite of your
comments.
1) Nobody here on TFL, so far as I know, is a disciple of any other
member. We are gathered together on TFL for discussion, for assistance
and support, for humor, and a general good time. (See the "register" area
for formal rules.)
To refer to any group of people who have similar opinions as a “collective”
is at best a misnomer. And I have no "disciples". A few of us enlightened
and politically wise folks merely happen to share some well-founded
beliefs!
Even Cactus and 416Rigby noted their political views and strategies are so
similar someone might think they were the same person - or at least
twins. But to call them disciples of Bush or the Republican Party would be
an unacceptable stretch.
We TFLers are too independent a lot to be anyone’s political disciples.
2) As for crying in the wilderness, your higher hopes for the Republican
Party is a good example. I remain convinced that the Republicans will pass
gun control legislation as they have helped pass similar infringements in
the past. Again, compare our gun rights of 1950 with our current situation
to see clearly what the combined Democrat/Republican regimes have done
to our Constitution.
3) I am truly offended at the smiling faces, the pseudo-intellectual
arguments, and condescending, paternalistic attitudes of both the
Democrats and the Republicans. The Republicans mouth the word
“realism” when what they really mean is “appeasement”. The Republicans
have become faux Democrats in the best tradition of Neville Chamberlain
and I will not support the unconstitutional actions of these two major
parties.
4) If and when the Republicans stand up and say that virtually every gun
control law and consequent regulation or directive is unconstitutional and
will be rescinded, then and only then will I have faith that the Republican
Party has returned to Constitutional rule.
Until then, folks like Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Bob Smith, etc. are the true
“voices crying in the wilderness”.
5) Until then, it is a safe bet that the two parties, in spite of their little
“pillow fights” and false public gestures designed to differentiate the
parties, will continue to infringe upon the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Their recent complicity in the unconstitutional war in Yugoslavia, in
addition to the virtual demise of the Bill of Rights, should convince any
unbiased observer that legislative and executive branches of our federal
government no longer feel restricted by the governing document which
they swore to uphold.
6) That the Democrat wing of the Dem/Rep party is more radical than the
Republican wing is common knowledge upon which we all agree. But they
work together, falsely providing a “choice” to voters while the legislators
act with little or no legal, moral, or ethical restriction.
7) We all agree on the dangers of a Gore/Bradley regime. But I steadfastly
disagree that Bush will defend the Constitution. Already we have
documented his promised gun control measures. Therefore, the difference
between the extremes of the current two-party regime (in reference ONLY
to gun control) are only a matter of timetables. The Republicans currently
intervene between the people and the Democrats to bring about the
Democrats totalitarian goals at a slower rate which, the Republicans hope,
will not arouse the ire of the voters. Well, my ire is aroused. And I vote.
[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited October 28, 1999).]
I see you are fairly new here so I’ll take it easy on you, in spite of your
comments.
1) Nobody here on TFL, so far as I know, is a disciple of any other
member. We are gathered together on TFL for discussion, for assistance
and support, for humor, and a general good time. (See the "register" area
for formal rules.)
To refer to any group of people who have similar opinions as a “collective”
is at best a misnomer. And I have no "disciples". A few of us enlightened
and politically wise folks merely happen to share some well-founded
beliefs!
Even Cactus and 416Rigby noted their political views and strategies are so
similar someone might think they were the same person - or at least
twins. But to call them disciples of Bush or the Republican Party would be
an unacceptable stretch.
We TFLers are too independent a lot to be anyone’s political disciples.
2) As for crying in the wilderness, your higher hopes for the Republican
Party is a good example. I remain convinced that the Republicans will pass
gun control legislation as they have helped pass similar infringements in
the past. Again, compare our gun rights of 1950 with our current situation
to see clearly what the combined Democrat/Republican regimes have done
to our Constitution.
3) I am truly offended at the smiling faces, the pseudo-intellectual
arguments, and condescending, paternalistic attitudes of both the
Democrats and the Republicans. The Republicans mouth the word
“realism” when what they really mean is “appeasement”. The Republicans
have become faux Democrats in the best tradition of Neville Chamberlain
and I will not support the unconstitutional actions of these two major
parties.
4) If and when the Republicans stand up and say that virtually every gun
control law and consequent regulation or directive is unconstitutional and
will be rescinded, then and only then will I have faith that the Republican
Party has returned to Constitutional rule.
Until then, folks like Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Bob Smith, etc. are the true
“voices crying in the wilderness”.
5) Until then, it is a safe bet that the two parties, in spite of their little
“pillow fights” and false public gestures designed to differentiate the
parties, will continue to infringe upon the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Their recent complicity in the unconstitutional war in Yugoslavia, in
addition to the virtual demise of the Bill of Rights, should convince any
unbiased observer that legislative and executive branches of our federal
government no longer feel restricted by the governing document which
they swore to uphold.
6) That the Democrat wing of the Dem/Rep party is more radical than the
Republican wing is common knowledge upon which we all agree. But they
work together, falsely providing a “choice” to voters while the legislators
act with little or no legal, moral, or ethical restriction.
7) We all agree on the dangers of a Gore/Bradley regime. But I steadfastly
disagree that Bush will defend the Constitution. Already we have
documented his promised gun control measures. Therefore, the difference
between the extremes of the current two-party regime (in reference ONLY
to gun control) are only a matter of timetables. The Republicans currently
intervene between the people and the Democrats to bring about the
Democrats totalitarian goals at a slower rate which, the Republicans hope,
will not arouse the ire of the voters. Well, my ire is aroused. And I vote.
[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited October 28, 1999).]