BSA Scopes ~ How are they?

No problemo. Yes, I'm in USA. No, I don't know anything about Gamo scopes good or bad - they could be OK. Your problem may just be poor quality rings, or possibly the scope is broke (won't hold a zero). The Gamo air rifles seem to be a decent quality for the price, but dunno who makes their optics, or how they are. I'd suspect not-so-good. BTW, I have currently the model 350 RWS, and it's wearing the Burris compact 3-9x32. It's not a bad scope for it's purpose, but not really too clear from 6 power up. But I generally keep it on 3 or 4 power anyway, so it works well for my purposes. Good luck!

PS. Oh yeah, ideally, you'd get rings specifically for the 11mm rail as opposed to rimfire rings for a 3/8th inch dovetail (which is 9.53 mm). But the latter will work in most cases with a little less tightening than what is expected for the rings.
 
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are you sure abaut these burris signature rings? to me they look a bit thin, unstable and the attachment to the rail looks a bit crappy aswell! i think the idea with the plastic inside, is good but is the rest realy so solid as you say?
 
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Hmmm, I'm not sure what you're looking at exactly. Are you physically handling some in a store? If so, then compare several and look at the solidness and feel and so forth, and maybe ask the salesperson and pick which one looks and feels best or what the salesperson recommends (the former is preferable to the latter). If you're just looking at online pictures or catalog pics, then I don't know what to tell you, except that the Burris Signature rings have a good reputation for being the best or one of the best. I dunno, anyone else have a ring recommendation for 1shot, 1hit? If you get something from Leupold, Redfield, Burris, it's bound to be good, as long as you don't get something from the "economy line" of these makers, like the Leupold "Rifleman" series, etc. There are many other companies making good rings also. Generally, you'll get what you pay for. Since your rifle is already a heavy one, I'd go ahead and go for a thick, solid steel quality ring of whatever make seems best when you do your own comparison.

Also, personally, I no longer like the Millett "Angle-Loc" rings that have 2 screws per ring (one on each side) to tighten them to the base. Althought these are otherwise nice, quality rings, I don't like any rings that dramatically change the point of impact when you tighten one side or the other, so I like rings that have a tightening screw (or 2 screws) on only one side.
 
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what exactly do i need, to keep my RWS 54 is a perfect condition? :confused:
- Lubricants/kleaning fluids?
- cleaning tools?
- haw often do i need to klean/ lubricate the rifle?
- are cleaning pellets a good idea?
- is it better to onely use the maintenance products from RWS to clean/lubricate RWS guns (application needle bore lube, chmber lube, spring lube ...etc)

i want to keep my gun as maintained as possible :)
please poast back ;)
 
i gather that a good chice for my beauty is e.g: a bushnell Elite 4200 4-16x40 rain guard scope, mount it with the burris signature rings (or the simmilar ones) put a scope stop behind it just in case and then secure it all with the blue loktite.
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Exactly.

As for maintenance, I'm not an expert there, but I've hear that you don't want to put a steel cleaning rod down the barrel and possibly mess up the rifling. Use a plastic cleaning rod, or possible a brass one - something relatively soft. Or, don't use any rod at all - simply clean it every 300-500 pellets let's say, by using those felt cleaning pellets - that's what I've always done with my RWSs. Always shoot at least 3 of them at a time (3 or 4), or you could damage your rifle if you only shoot one (possibly) - it's not a heavy enough of a pellet, and the piston could slam into the front of the cylinder. First, shoot 3 pellets saturated in a bore solvent. Then, shoot 3 dry felt pellets to take this solvent out. Then, very lightly oil with a quality light oil one felt pellet and put it in with 2 more dry ones behind it, and shoot through. Done.

I'd say, yes, it's a good idea to use RWS or Beeman products to clean/maintain, if possible, as they know what they're doing. I've never actually lubed a spring or piston or chamber myself, so I don't know how often that should be done, or even how to do it, honestly. If you find out, let me know. Thanks.

Of course, after shooting/handling the rifle, always do a couple of swipes down that beautiful blueing with either a rag that has a light oil or CLP on it, or with a silicone cloth, to get your hand oils off of it.
 
I have owned a couple. Obtained a BSA catseye 3x9x40 and 4-16x50. 1st would not hold zero. Second, replaced after sitting on a deer stand and threw up to watch a song bird. Nothing but black. The reticles were clanking loose inside. I have spent too much money on ammo trying to get these to hold a zero. Save your money.
 
I put one of those wallyworld 30mm BSA red dots on my SAR-1... it works pretty good for $30... but you get what you pay for. It has a tendency to turn itself off after being rattled while shot a little " too much." I don't think any type of acceptable optic should ever succomb to being "shot too much." At least not as quick as my BSA did. That being said, it always turns back on after reseting the illumination knob... but it is kinda annoying while on the range.

At least it gave me a taste of the red dot world... money permiting I'd love something from Aimpoint or Trijicon but until then BSA will have to do.
 
I just read in the new issue of 1st Freedom that Gamo makes the BSA scopes. They wanted a scope line to put on their airguns, and BSA is the result.

That said. I have a 6-24x50 Contender on my Bushmaster Varminter. I bought it literally as a place holder till I saved up for the Leopold 6-20x50 Varmint that I actually wanted.

Scope was fine for about 8 months, then the reticle started to rotate counter clockwise one day at the range. Funny part was it kept zero for maybe 5 more shots before failing. I was disgusted with the scope, thinking, well, that's what I get for putting an $85 dollar scope on a $1,000 rifle. Sent it in for repair under warranty. Got a brand new scope back in less than a week! No charge, even for shipping. This new scope has been on for a year and a half now, and the rifle even took a tumble off a bench once at a big THR shoot, and the scope is fine. This one is very clear and no distortion. I can read the fine print on my targets at 100 yards with it! So nice, I have yet to buy a proper spotting scope, I just use it.

I am still lusting over the Leopold. But I can't justify spending 600 bucks on a scope that from what I can tell, will not look any better than my $85 POS scope. Now, I am wondering about long range parallax issues, for shooting varmints at more than say....400 yards. But, considering I have yet to go on a praire dog hunt, and I don't have access to ranges longer than 100 yards...it's really kind of moot right now.

I tell myself the next time this scope fails, I'll replace it with the Leopold...we'll see.
 
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Ihave had a BSA Contender 6-24x40 on my custom Mauser98/280 remington for about two years now and it is not the best scope in the world...Obviously...But for the $65 I paid for it on ebay, it works pretty good...The optics are adequate, though sunglare is a problem at certain angles to the sun,but overall it has been fine...I use it at therange a lot and find the 1/8 click adjustments to be fine and it hold POA very well...If you have a little more money to spend, I recommend a Nikon for around $125...I have a 3-9x40 on a Swedish Mauser and it is a pretty good scope as well.
 
BSA= Better Stay Away, or Broken Scope Awaits.
Not a scope snob, but have too many aquaintences who've had nothing but grief. Tried so zero a friends .223 with one, 6x18 IIRC, quickly became apparent that BSA scope was total crap!!! Did not respond to windage adjustment. Removed to replace with Simmons 44MAG, BSA rattled when shaken. For a decent cheap scope, I'd try the Simmons 44MAG, or the Bushnell Elite series.
 
As posted by cosmolinelover :

"I put one of those wallyworld 30mm BSA red dots on my SAR-1... it works pretty good for $30... but you get what you pay for. It has a tendency to turn itself off after being rattled while shot a little " too much." I don't think any type of acceptable optic should ever succomb to being "shot too much." At least not as quick as my BSA did. That being said, it always turns back on after reseting the illumination knob... but it is kinda annoying while on the range.

At least it gave me a taste of the red dot world... money permiting I'd love something from Aimpoint or Trijicon but until then BSA will have to do."

I bought a SAR-1 that came with a BSA Red Dot scope and it has done fine, I shot 500 rounds through it and it works very well for me.

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Sorry for the crappy pic, but it's all I can do with a scanner.
 
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