Brits offended by "The Patriot"...

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Whats up! Their inbred royal family isn't even english. The island has been ruled by foreigners for centuries. F??? 'em.

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In the shadow of Bunker Hill from the People's Republic of Massachusetts
 
Disgusting article. Just proves that if you scream racisim in a headline it's sure to get published somewhere.
Francis Marion, AKA The Swamp Fox,AKA America's First Ranger, was always a favorite historical figure of mine. Where is that thread about propaganda again? The one that says destroy the "National Hero's".

FWIW: www.mdx.ac.uk/www/study/Index.htm

Andrew Roberts' home page. He has some *interesting* views about sociology. Can you say noble wannabe?

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KJM excellent thoughts! People are people, governments are governments. The big difference is contol. We as the people are suppose to be in control. There was another post a few days ago talking about "forefather bashing" that lends a little light to this topic. Why the push to discredit the men who put it all on the line for us? I agree with KJM in that EVERY Government has committed autrocities. Yes the author of the piece was a whiner (weiner) and a movie is only a movie. I hope at least the Patriot stays at least somewhere close to being true to history. Isn't this the same director of Saving Private Ryan? If so, I can't wait to see the "Patriotism rod" shoved up the collectives ash! If it's good my family will be watching it several times in social protest. We figure that if the movie is the all time great hit of the year, they just might make another one with the same message and that's exactly what this country needs right now! I am Scotch Irish and two of the best friends I have on this planet live in Jolly Old. I no more hold them responsible for their government than I do the citizens of this country for ours. Dang, here I go again, I just talked myself into a corner. Everyone's responsible, Nuke us all!
 
The British shouldn't take this too personally. The truth is that hollywood has simply exhausted their list of PC bad guys.
The Italians complain whenever they're portrayed as mafiosi.
African Americans get upset whenever they're cast as drug addicts on welfare.
Hispanics get irate whenever they play drug pushers.
The Arabs are tired of seeing themselves on the screen as terrorists.
So unless you have the budget for computer graphic aliens, you're stuck using WASP's as the baddies.
And there ain't nobody more WASPy than the Brits! ;)
 
Well, folks. Perhaps a little patience is in order. I doubt that Mr. Andrews
speaks for all of Britain. Some personal observations:

- When I was in Berlin (1960-64), I worked closely with some British analysts
who had been there for 10-20 years. Ours rotated every 3-5 years.
Experience tells the story in this case. They were head and shoulders above
us, but willing - even eager to help us. They were a lot more help to our
various field units than was our National Security Agency (for whom we toiled).

- When I was stationed in the British sector of West Germany (1970-75 ), the
British Army unit at Wolfenbuettel was our nearest military support. Trust me,
these guys were much tougher than the U.S. Army guys stationed at
Darmstadt (with a similar mission). Yet they consistently were polite and
respectful toward Americans - even after we ALL consumed WAY to much
booze.

- I was in Germany during Watergate. British Parliament really poured the
insults to Americans. However, at the nearby Brit post we were treated with
respect. Frequently they asked us about Watergate but usually agreed that
politicians around the world are disgustingly similar - common citizens around
the world usually could get along better without their government’s
interference. (I note that common citizens rarely declare war on each other -
they only respond to their governments’ calls to arms.)

- Also during Watergate, a member of British Parliament spoke insultingly of
Americans. This is as close to a quote as possible.

“Americans are always talking about Rights! Citizenship is not about Rights!
It’s about Duty!” (Followed by cheers of fellow members of Parliament.)

Such are the elitists British citizens suffer under - willingly, even insistently. I
believe that one (near-)quote explains the most significant difference between
the British and Americans. Unfortunately, America is going in the same
direction. We also are now ruled by an elitist class who have created an
oligarchy.

Personally, I could not care less about Mr. Andrews’ opinions. On the other
hand, we would do well to use the British government as a model of what we
must avoid in America.
 
Everytime I see something about a brit whining about America or some Americans I am remind of that poster, "Which part of Europe are your from? The part who's ass we saved or the part who's ass we kicked?"
 
Back in the mid to late 1950's American Forces Network (AFN)
Radio stations could NOT play two songs that was very popular
at the time because of complaints from the German and British
government.

1. Sink the Bismark (German government)
2. Battle of New Orleans (British government)


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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
 
I really wonder why we put up with the whiney Brits as much as we do...unless it's because Clinton wants a place to apply for political asylum after his term is up. ;)

Let's look at a few examples of Brit military prowess, tradition, and respect for human rights:

In the Boer War, the only way they could win was by rounding up Boer women and children, torturing them and holding them hostage in concentration camps. In Tasmania, they declared the natives to be non-human, so their officers could go Tasmanian hunting with a clear conscience. When we traded them 50 desparately-needed destroyers for overseas bases, the first thing they did was renovate the officers' quarters (making them bigger) and crews' quarters (making them smaller), both items - in Brit eyes - more important than convoy duty. And of course, many still regard their biggest "victory" in WWII to be . . . Dunkirk. Their only worthwhile 20th century statesman - Winston Churchill - regarded British naval tradition to consist of "run, sodomy, and the lash."

But what more can you expect of a small island nation that once conquered half the world, but has yet to master central heating?
 
Yeah and what about Pigeons, those filthy disgusting fowl that push out our beautiful native birds and poop all over us. They were brought here by a homesick Englishman.

I can get over all the other stuff, but not the pigeons!

If any nationality has been abused in this country, especially by the media, it is the Germans. The whiny wogs should shut up and accept the fact that they are a third world country.


Geoff Ross

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One reason to vote in the next Presidential election.

It's the Supreme Court, Stupid!
 
DorGunR, those are two classics from Johnny Horton! I still remember the lyrics from Battle of New Orleans...

Ol' Hick'ry said we could take 'em by surprise
If we didn't fire our muskets 'till we looked 'em in the eyes
We held our fire 'till we seen their faces well,
Then we opened up our squirrel guns and really gave 'em hell...

We fired our guns and the British kept a comin'
But there wasn't not as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down through Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.

Sink the Bismarck was another great one. I just don't feel like typing more.
 
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The 1996 biopic 'Michael Collins', for example, posing as a true story, simply invented scenes in which British troops machine gunned perfectly innocent Irish sports spectators, portrayed a car bomb decades before such a weapon was invented and showed the torture and murder by the British in 1922 of an informer who in fact died peacefully in his bed in 1972. When the Irish director, Neil Jordan, himself a history graduate, was told that Irish historians had pinpointed these falsifications and many more, he simply answered; 'Well, f..k them'.
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I researched the accuracy aspects of the film.

1)Spectators were not machine-gunned by an armored car. Instead, a group of police trapped them in the stadium and sniped at them for hours. Same .303, same deaths...but the director wanted a visual provided by a Rolls-Royce tin box.
2)Frye...the police informant lived, another member of the IRA got caught and tortured to death at that time...the film combined the two to keep down the number of characters.

The film's director did comment out all the inaccuracies (incl. those of gender relations).

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Oleg "peacemonger" Volk

http://dd-b.net/RKBA
 
What else could we expect from the declawed, defanged and neutered lion that is the once "Great" Britain?

If anything, their current pathetic state of government-dependent geeks should serve us as a memento: sorry to say it, ladies and gents, but we are headed in that direction too.

While we are being fed some of the richest and moistest cat-chow ever available, lots of entities (Local, State, Federal and International) are busy sharpening their clippers and snippers.

Every time I look at England, I see lots of our past and some of our future. Let's laugh at them all we want (I for one love to do so) but let's be cautious: the likes of Blair, Gore, Clinton and the U.N. and EEC leadership may have the last laugh, on us.

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Private gun ownership is the capital sin in the left's godless religion. Crime is merely a venial mistake.

Check out these gals: www.sas-aim.org
 
Looks like somebody tinkled in his tea.

I am not a british basher, but if not for them we would not have the situation of more Scots living abroad than in Scotland.

Any regime should be suspect wherein the size of the ears is the major quality of the royals.

I am sure that our revolution pissed off the Austrailians. If we hadn't broken free, we would have been the prison colony. Cheaper transportation.

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Sam I am, grn egs n packin

Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Danger Dave:
...classics from Johnny Horton! I still remember the lyrics from Battle of New Orleans...
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My favorite part is the verse you didn't include:

Well, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles,
They ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go;
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em,
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico!
 
Well, I honestly don't blame the man for being tired of the bashing ... but, he uses about twice as many words as necessary to make his point. Tiresome.

And, all through the article I'm thinking 'well, now you know how honest firearms owners feel'. Considering the 'contribution' Britain has made to disarming honest people around the world, I have little pity left for them. That and their socialist contributions.

Oh ... one last point. He notes Orwell's quote that "England is the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality." From what I've seen of our own academia and their constant whining that we (the U.S.) 'are the only industrialized country that' blah, blah, blah .... well, I think many American 'intellectuals' have now joined the same club.

Regards from AZ
 
Dissascoiated Press, 6/22/2000:

Spielberg Sued for Defamation

The Sons of the Third Reich, a German historical club, today filed suit against Steven Spielberg for what they called his "unfairly biased" portrayal of Germans in the films "Schindler's List" and "Saving Private Ryan". The group pointed out that the "heroic German troops were acting only to save Europe from the Communist menace" and that "no one ever asked die Amerikaner schwienhund to interfere in matters of Eurpoean concern".

In related news, the Sioux Nation is suing the estate of John Wayne, and the Sons of Italy are demanding damages from Kevin Costner for the portrayal of Italian-American businessmen in "The Untouchables". Costner has already settled out of court in another class-action suit over that movie, when over three million moviegoers complained that they expected the lead role to be performed by an actor.
 
Danger Dave & Hank B,
My favorite verse goes....

We fired our guns till the barrels melted down
Then we grabbed an alligator and fought another round
We filled his head with cannon ball and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind
:D

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