Brits offended by "The Patriot"...

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Hollywood's racist lies about Britain and the British
By Andrew Roberts

The news from Hollywood is that yet another movie is about to be made distorting history to the disadvantage of the British. Mel Gibson's'Patriot' will be the bracingly anti-British story of an American general in the War of Independence, Francis Marion, who fights a brilliant guerilla war against the evil British invaders. When the movie's historians discovered that in real life Marion raped his slaves and hunted Red Indians for sport they changed his name to Benjamin Martin. Yet one thing stayed the same; the movies' 'baddies' are, as usual, the treacherous, cowardly, evil, sadistic Brits.

The list of films depicting us as villains is now so long as to amount to a virtual declaration of war on this country by the geographically small but globally incredible powerful Los Angeles suburb of Hollywood. Think of Charles Dance in the woefully historically inaccurate 'Michael Collins'. Or caddish Tim Roth in 'Rob Roy'. Or Jeremy Irons and Alan Rickman in the 'Die Hard' movies.

The toffee-nosed Brits in 'Gandhi', 'Braveheart' and 'Pocohontas' are caricatures, as is the genuinely funny Sheriff of Nottingham in 'Prince of Thieves'. But the British officers in 'Titanic' are portrayed as battening down the steerage class hatches, thereby deliberately trying to murder the happy, jig-dancing Irish folk below. We always play the villians, even when no amount of historical revisionism could place us at the scene of the crime. Did Steven Spielberg cast a German as the homicidal concentration camp commander in 'Schindler's List'? No, it was the Englishman Ralph Fiennes.

Even in Disney cartoons such as 'The Lion King' the role of the treacherous, murderous lion Scar is played by Jeremy Irons with a cut-glass English accent. Sher Khan, the tiger in 'The Jungle Book', Cruella De Ville in '101 Dalmatians' and many other Disney villains are also recognisably English.

British actors love it; they know that the bad guys often have the best parts but is there something more important and sinister going on here than just boosting the job opportunities of such British career "baddies" as Tim Curry, Brian Cox, Richard E. Grant and Jonathan Pryce? Might there not be an insidious form of genuine racism at work here, something that Britons have hitherto been far too indulgent to complain about?

Larry Mark, producer of Jerry Maguire, is explicit about what is going on. 'The villains used to be the Germans, the Japanese or the Russians', he admits, 'but they protested. If the English get a bad rap they can take it.' Until recently this has been true, indeed we have almost taken it as a compliment that Hollywood bothers to cast Britons as villains. It shows that we still matter in the world. After all, no one tries negatively to stereotype the Finns, Norwegians or Thais.

Yet there is a point where the incessant bad-mouthing has to stop, and for many people that point was reached in the mid-Nineties when historical accuracy was stretched so far that movies actually attempted to explain away anti-British terrorism and helped the propaganda efforts of organisations such as the IRA. The glamorisation of violence is bad enough but in several recent films the assassination of serving British officials was actively justified by horrific distortion of the historical truth.

The 1996 biopic 'Michael Collins', for example, posing as a true story, simply invented scenes in which British troops machine gunned perfectly innocent Irish sports spectators, portrayed a car bomb decades before such a weapon was invented and showed the torture and murder by the British in 1922 of an informer who in fact died peacefully in his bed in 1972. When the Irish director, Neil Jordan, himself a history graduate, was told that Irish historians had pinpointed these falsifications and many more, he simply answered; 'Well, f..k them'.

Another such movie, 'Some Mother's Son', about Bobby Sands and the IRA hunger-strikers and starring Helen Mirren, was written and directed by Terry George. American audiences were not told that Mr George, far from being an objective witness to the events of 1981, had in fact served three years in prison in Northern Ireland for possession of a gun with intent to endanger life. When it was screened at the prestigious Hamptons Film Festival in 1996 these were some of the remarks made afterwards by ordinary Americans leaving the cinema: 'Those bloody British. I do hate them a lot.' 'God, I hate Thatcher.' 'The way they speak, the way they act - I hate the British'.

In this country and in America incitement to racial hatred is illegal, but that does not seem to apply to movies biased against the British. There were also factual innaccuracies and sheer invention of events in the notorious 1997 movie 'The Devil's Own', so much so that even its co-star, Brad Pitt, denounced its pro-IRA bias. 'The New York Post' described the film as 'an eloquent apology for murderous terrorism', and the former Irish foreign minister, Conor Cruise O'Brien explained how such a distorted, sick film could have been released: 'In the structure of the American movie industry there is a large Irish-American lobby which is basically pro-IRA. Any film which depicted the IRA overall unfavourably would run into trouble at the box office.'

Part of the problem is that although America has its vocal and politically-motivated minority racial groups - Irish-Americans, African-Americans, Native-Americans, Hispanics, and so on - no-one terms himself a British-American, even though millions are. If British-Americans insisted on their right not to be so constantly denigrated and offensively portrayed they could very swiftly change attitudes.

If they simply voted with their wallets at the box office and refused to see shows in which they are stigmatised as vicious sadists, Hollywood would soon be forced to listen. The first film to boycott might be the new James Bond movie if, as reports suggest, the screenplay depicts one of the few genuine British cinema heroes as being in league with Gerry Adams and the IRA.

If we stayed away from a film with such a disgraceful story-line it would hurt the film-makers where it hurts them most - not in their (clearly non-existent) consciences, but in their wallets. In 1981 the film-maker Colin Welland famously told the Oscars ceremony; 'The British are coming!' If the message got through that the British weren't coming to blatantly anti-British movies any longer, Hollywood would soon see a significant proportion of its profits disappear, and more honest depictions of the Troubles screened.

It is easy to explain psychologically why in film after film the British Empire is depicted as genocidal and grossly exploitative, when in fact it was neither. It is because with their own record of killing 12 million American Indians and supporting slavery for four decades after the British abolished it, Americans wish to project their own historical guilt onto someone else. In the process they also try to grab the glory for winning the Second World War, screening such movies as U-571 which deliberately denies the British role in crucial theatres of the war.

As educational standards decline, British schoolchildren learn a greater and greater proportion of history from movies. Yet most of the ones Hollywood currently produces seriously misrepresent the motivations and achievements of our forefathers.

Fifty years ago, George Orwell wrote: "England is the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality." In a few years' time, if these films continue to be made, it will not just be intellectuals but ordinary Britons who will have been conned into feeling entirely unwarranted shame about their country's past. With 'Patriot', Hollywood seems about to unleash yet another offensive against our honour.

If so, in the name of historical truth and justifiable national pride, let's at last fight back.

Andrew Roberts yesterday won the Wolfson History Award for his 'Salisbury: Victorian Titan' (Weidenfeld & Nicolson £25)
© Express Newspapers, 2000



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the ...' 'baddies' are, as usual, the treacherous, cowardly, evil, sadistic Brits.


Works for me. And they said it themselves. But *I* would have called them the treacherous, cowardly, spinless, socialist, sheeple Brits.
 
Whiney bassits ain't they.

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What works for them, works for us.

While serving aboard U.S.S. Forrestal, I had a chance to sit down and drink beer with some English sailors from the H.M.S.Invinsable.

They were telling me that they do not study the American revolution in high school over there, and fail to teach the English high school students what a ruthless group of people the english nobility were back then.

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I couldn't even finish reading the whine.

My ancestors are Scot. I have learned that the Union Jack was called "The Butcher's Apron". And I have learned why.

One of my few recognized prejudices is the English. I prefer to extoll the virtues of establishing a new state in rebellion to the crown, over the actual, specific failings of the English. But they are second on my list. The french are no.1. Compared to the French the English are a worthy people, historically. However, today they have chosen a socialist sewer in which to exist. They weren't conquered, they chose it. I think that says it all.

I hope this conversation is never held with Americans as the subject.
 
"the 'baddies' are, as usual, the treacherous, cowardly, evil, sadistic Brits."

I would disagree with cowardly, but otherwise he got it spot on. But, the nationalities or races that haven't had those same traits at one time or another in their history are very few and far between, if any. We all have to live with our human history and get over it.
 
Maybe so, but I admit it is a prejudice. That makes it difficult. One more thing to work on. I gotta quit smokin' too.
 
This, from a country whose sole contribution to international cuisine consists of boiling.

They are they and we are we; we won, they lost and they can bite me...whine all ya want, you're broke and we aren't.....because we won. Nanner nanner :D

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We shouldn't bash the British.After all if we collected the money they still owe us from lend lease, WW2, with interest we would own that island.Wouldn't want to collect it because what would we do with it? Any ideas?Maybe a big shooting range for big toys?


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Roberts is really in denial ("the British Empire is depicted as genocidal and grossly exploitative, when in fact it was neither" and "Americans wish to project their own historical guilt onto someone else"). Come on Andy, I studied the history of the British Empire as part of my Master's in History and your empire was as racist, bloody and exploitive as any in history. Also, we Americans accept the responsibility for those things in our past which are shameful, why can't you? Just another whiney British "subject" (well, I guess when you've given up your means of fighting back, all you can do is whine!).
 
"Hollywood's racist lies about Britain and the British "

RACIST??? since when is being British RACIAL???

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Oh, I say, hard cheese, old boy!

How can you tell a plane full of English tourists?
It whines before the engines start.

(told to me by an embarrassed Englishman.)

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Oh lord, I love it so.

They may not have an empire anymore, but they British can still whine like dogs...

Let's see...

Many of the "12 million Indians" were killed while the states were still British Colonies. So, in essence, the British did it.

As for supporting slavery for 4 decades after the British outlawed it, who brought it to the Americas in the first place?

The British.

Who continued to traffic in slaves long after the practice was abolished?

The British.

Who PROFITED the most from American slaves?

British cloth mill owners, and by extension, the British Merchant Marine and the Queen.

Who didn't bother developing new, Empire sources of cotton until it became readily apparent that American slavery was on its way out and as such would stifle the cheap American cotton?

The British.

Sanctimonious, self-righteous wankers.

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Silly us, trying to "take credit for winning WWII", everyone knows it was Montgomery's brilliant airborne invasion of The Netherlands, which was saved by the tenacious and aggressive advance of the British armoured forces in their lightning dash to relieve their beleaguered countrymen in Arnhem that did that.

I, for one, am about sick of saving them from the Jerries. If Deutschland wants to try to take the degenerate, ungrateful, little pesthole again, they're welcome to it. And this time, no whiny pleas to the NRA and US gun owners to lend them our deer rifles 'for the duration' again. For a history scholar, this twink's knowledge of his supposed area of expertise is pathetic. Perhaps he can describe the assistance the Brits gave us against Japan? Other than some spectacularly successful surrenders in Singapore and Malaysia, as well as the admittedly daring but strategically insignificant Chindit operations in Burma, the British contributed exactly doink in the Pacific other than allowing the IJN air arm to use the Prince of Wales and Repulse as target hulks.

Talk about a nation with delusions of relevance...

P.S. I was unaware that 'British Subject' was a race, which makes the Racism charge somewhat specious...

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I'm no Anglophile, but I try not to knock the Pommies too hard, either.

But strewth, Ruth! Is this bloke fair dinkum??

Has he ever bothered to see what the Poms were like in Australia??????

Cruel and sadistic doesn't begin to cover it; they had shooting parties for Aborigines, massacring whole tribes; they built places like Port Arthur in Tasmania, which must rank as one of the world's prison hell-holes; they dumped children on islands a few acres square, and left them to fend for themselves with no shelter. This country is covered with their jails. In fact, the whole joint was one big prison!!

Every country has things in its past it may be ashamed of -- but to stick your head in the sand (or up your fundamental orifice) and pretend it didn't happen is taking revisionism -- and arrogance -- too far!

B
 
My ancestors were also Scottish, and I must confess to a little prejudice (and a short fuse) when it comes to them. But, as someone else mentioned, there hasn't been a "race" in human history that hasn't, at some point in time, done similar heinous things that the Brits have.

But by golly they are a whiny bunch! And what's up with the racism issue? Being British isn't racial! There are/were MANY different races that live/d on that island.

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Scotch Irish here, they don't get any sympathy from me. I think that the ancestors of the Emerald Isle, and bonny Scotland should demand reparations for past atrocities. Yea right.
 
I too put France as my #1 preferred ground zero for the first Nuke of the next big war. Chances are, if there ever is another bigun, then the French probably in some way started it. The Brittish did have superb fighting men, but they alltogether are just a bit too willing to die for King/Queen and country than the average American Citizen/soldier.
We cannot however put too much criticism off on the Britts because if you read the Declaration of Independence, you come away with a creepy feeling that our Government has done far worse things to us in the past 60 years than good ol'e King George could've dreamt about. Go down the list of the intolerable acts, and you will either see that our government has either copied the behavior or bested it with somthing worse. I for one will be in line June 30th to see the opening of Patriot. I will probably leave feeling ashamed that our country lacks the intestinal fortitude that brought Freedom and Liberty to the world in the first place. Now all you hear from anti's and other liberal socialists is how we oughta be just like the Brittish! History is now my home, because the future is bleak, and the present is just a pathway to the obvious bleak future.
 
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