Britain mulling gun law change

I suppose it's a step in the right direction, but I don't consider making a special exemption for Olympic pistol shooters much of a "relaxation" of the absurd British gun laws.

Tim
 
Gun Law Changes

Those numbnuts in Britan would not know a good law from a hole in the ground. They still think that the present law has wide spread support with the people. :barf:
 
Too late. The Brits are so used to socialism they can't tell the difference between something coming out of their ass with some thing going up their ass.
Great Britain isn't great but it sure is over.
 
Dumb Laws

Sure lots of the gun laws in the UK are dumb, and some of the them are a lot less restrictive than America.

Some of the less dumb ones include,

No-one going to ask for my fingerprints or the permission of the Police if I want to make or buy silencers.

Can do a personal import of a firearm from a foreign country without having to mess around with getting government permission.

Can have a 12 inch barrel on my rifles without having to get my fingerprints taken.

50 cal rifles legal in all parts of the country - though good luck finding a range that will let you shoot one (there are a few) :)

High capacity magazines, pistol grips, bayonet lugs etc not considered 'evil' features anywhere.

That said, I'd be happy to swap our current laws for those from New Jersey.
 
TimRB said:
I suppose it's a step in the right direction, but I don't consider making a special exemption for Olympic pistol shooters much of a "relaxation" of the absurd British gun laws.


Exactly. In fact, I think that because of the hardship that Britain imposed on its own Olympic shooting competitors, the IOC should have imposed sanctions on Britain for squelching the training and preparation efforts of their athletes.

This lunacy of treating EVEN OLYMPIC ATHLETES as criminals should have been roundly ridiculed right from the start -- and it was not. I never heard a word about it during the Olympics, or during the time leading up to them (for any of the Olympics that have been held since the British ban of '97).

Where is the bow-and-arrow control? Where is the javelin control?
These things are weapons too.

-blackmind
 
Hulbert said:
Sure lots of the gun laws in the UK are dumb, and some of the them are a lot less restrictive than America.

Some of the less dumb ones include,

No-one going to ask for my fingerprints or the permission of the Police if I want to make or buy silencers.

Can do a personal import of a firearm from a foreign country without having to mess around with getting government permission.

Can have a 12 inch barrel on my rifles without having to get my fingerprints taken.


I can barely believe that you offered this list as a good faith show of evidence that Britain's gun laws aren't all that bad.

For example, what difference does it make if you don't need the permission of the police to make or buy silencers, if the guns you'd use them on are forbidden? :rolleyes:

Likewise, what difference if you can do a personal import of a firearm? Your country won't let you walk around with a lockback pocket knife with even a 2.5 inch blade... What kind of guns are they going to let you import? Can you import yourself a GLOCK 21? An H&K Mk23? A Taurus Raging Bull?

I mean, what good is it to be allowed to import guns that you can't legally own?

-blackmind
 
This lunacy of treating EVEN OLYMPIC ATHLETES as criminals should have been roundly ridiculed right from the start -- and it was not.

Nope, it shouldn't have been. If Joe Schmoe can't own that gun, then the Olympic athlete can't either. The one thing I hate more than ridiculious laws, is ridiculious laws only applied to certain people.
 
Yup

Another complicating factor is that handguns are not banned everywhere in the UK. There are two parts that normal handguns are still legal and concealled carry is possible ( but not 'shall grant' ) in one them - around 15000 concealled carry licences currently.
 
Parts

Normal handguns are still legal in Northern Ireland and Jersey. Also in the Isle of Mann which technically isn't part of the UK, but for all practical purposes it is.

Concealled Carry is possible in Northern Ireland if you have a belief you may be at risk from terrorists. The people who have these is everyone from off duty Prison Officers to plumbers that work on government buildings. Ironcially it also includes a bunch of the now 'ex' terrorists. Whats interesting is that the number of these permits has actually increased in recent years while the percieved terrorist threat has decreased.
 
Didn't California have a similar problem for Olympic training? I thought it was because the guns used were technically (the very dreaded) "DANGEROUS WEAPONS" Not being familiar with Olympic guns I am not aware of what features make them "dangerous" but maybe someone could fill us in with the details.

Mr. Hulbert should not be attacked for simply being British, which is what this thread appears to be doing. The British citizenry cannot overrun their government any more than we can ours, so saying that they're too socialist for their own good is attacking ordinary British citizens while they're down, and throwing in the knife law is hitting someone when they're down. Apparently, there are loopholes as Hulbert has pointed out, and not everyone is denied a firearm.
 
Now that's one heckuva concession. Relaxing the laws for the atheletes but the rest of the peons can be mugged.

Irreverrant but must we learn it from a Chinese newspaper?:D
 
Us 2, Uk 0

Since we beat them in two wars, largely due to weapons superiority, you would think they would emulate our gun laws.
 
Culcune asked, "Didn't California have a similar problem for Olympic training? I thought it was because the guns used were technically (the very dreaded) "DANGEROUS WEAPONS" Not being familiar with Olympic guns I am not aware of what features make them "dangerous" but maybe someone could fill us in with the details."

From what I understand, it had to do with some of the pistols used in Olympic competition. The have the magazine in front of the trigger guard, similar to an old broomhandle Mausers or the dreaded TEC-9. When the law was written, they did not consider the special pistols used in Olympic competetion and in they totally antigun attitude, AFAIK, have refused to correct the matter. :mad:
Paul B.
 
Ya they asked somebody in the CA state legislature and he said if you want to shoot guns for any reason move out of my state. Good advise for anyone wanting to be free of the commies that think they own that state..:barf:
 
Apparently I took that advice from that CA State legislator and didn't even know it. Specifically because of California's illegal, asinine, and indignifying gun laws myself, my family, and my income producing business which provides employment for a few other people as well, have moved out of California along with our tax dollars. What is this I hear of budget problems in California? Hmmm, that's too bad. :D
 
Just be sure to move aside and don't get in the way of the herd stampeding leaving CA. :D Hope the last poor sucker leaves the lights on for the peoples owners in the capital who are beginning to wonder where all their sheepale went.
 
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