Correia,
Unwittingly I think you're scoring one for HCI, who would indeed say that American police couldn't safely walk unarmed in many areas of the US, where the British still can. Which is of course, untrue on at least one count.
Dennis,
As you well know, I travel abroad to shoot, but as you equally well know I am almost a lone voice here in the UK in terms of being pro-shooting rights. That's what both you and Tamara seem to forget, you speak as if the millions of oppressed UK citizens sit staring at faded pictures of Lee Enfields with teary eyes, let's get this straight, British people hate guns, handguns in particular, because they are generally regarded as the province of the psycopath and the criminal. No matter how many times the whole "Britain Thing" crops up, this fact never seems to sink in. There must be me and about a thousand others out of a nation of 55 million who love pistol shooting enough to travel overseas to pursue it, paedophiles have a stronger lobby than us, and are regarded by the general populace in much the same light. I am genuinely surprised that HCI holds up the UK as a bat with which to beat you, it would not be my choice of unarmed socialist "paradise", Japan maybe, but not here, a burgeoning underclass and other social problems put paid to that myth. What the police are gauging in Nottingham (noted in the UK for having 4 women to every man and not for Errol Flynn in tights) is the public's reaction to visible firearms and not how the criminals react, and the jury is still out on that one. Rest assured if the Snowdrop Alliance don't kick up a fuss, Manchester and Liverpool will no doubt be next.
If you're happy to believe that these 6 pistoleros of the apocalypse are proof positive that something deep, meaningful and sinister is happeneing in the UK as a result of the gun ban, then hey, who am I to shake your tree. But take it from a resident, the only thing that has changed from the pre to the post ban era is the distance I have to travel to practice.
I continue to embroil myself in these BS arguments in the futile hope of stopping you from attempting to further the pro-gun agenda with such a poor vehicle as the UK. This in just the same way as I tell people here who refer to all gun owning Americans as being "completely f*****g crackers" every time another nut with a gun kills 20 people at a McDonalds, that countless thousands of level headed people own guns in the US and have used them effectively in self defence situations.
Ne'er the twain shall meet methinks, but hey if makes you feel warm and fuzzy, go for it, I have to go iron a shirt for work before the Storm Troopers kick the door in.
Mike H
Mike H
Unwittingly I think you're scoring one for HCI, who would indeed say that American police couldn't safely walk unarmed in many areas of the US, where the British still can. Which is of course, untrue on at least one count.
Dennis,
As you well know, I travel abroad to shoot, but as you equally well know I am almost a lone voice here in the UK in terms of being pro-shooting rights. That's what both you and Tamara seem to forget, you speak as if the millions of oppressed UK citizens sit staring at faded pictures of Lee Enfields with teary eyes, let's get this straight, British people hate guns, handguns in particular, because they are generally regarded as the province of the psycopath and the criminal. No matter how many times the whole "Britain Thing" crops up, this fact never seems to sink in. There must be me and about a thousand others out of a nation of 55 million who love pistol shooting enough to travel overseas to pursue it, paedophiles have a stronger lobby than us, and are regarded by the general populace in much the same light. I am genuinely surprised that HCI holds up the UK as a bat with which to beat you, it would not be my choice of unarmed socialist "paradise", Japan maybe, but not here, a burgeoning underclass and other social problems put paid to that myth. What the police are gauging in Nottingham (noted in the UK for having 4 women to every man and not for Errol Flynn in tights) is the public's reaction to visible firearms and not how the criminals react, and the jury is still out on that one. Rest assured if the Snowdrop Alliance don't kick up a fuss, Manchester and Liverpool will no doubt be next.
If you're happy to believe that these 6 pistoleros of the apocalypse are proof positive that something deep, meaningful and sinister is happeneing in the UK as a result of the gun ban, then hey, who am I to shake your tree. But take it from a resident, the only thing that has changed from the pre to the post ban era is the distance I have to travel to practice.
I continue to embroil myself in these BS arguments in the futile hope of stopping you from attempting to further the pro-gun agenda with such a poor vehicle as the UK. This in just the same way as I tell people here who refer to all gun owning Americans as being "completely f*****g crackers" every time another nut with a gun kills 20 people at a McDonalds, that countless thousands of level headed people own guns in the US and have used them effectively in self defence situations.
Ne'er the twain shall meet methinks, but hey if makes you feel warm and fuzzy, go for it, I have to go iron a shirt for work before the Storm Troopers kick the door in.
Mike H
Mike H
