Bringing an obsolete caliber back to commercial production

Have seen a few I like in here...I would like to see a high performance bolt action 284 Win. I also think 257 Roberts and 7x58 Mauser have died unnecessary deaths.
 
"My thoughts are the obsolete cartridges are obsolete for a reason."

Yep...

Generally, people are somewhat less intelligent than chimps, meaning that they are easily distracted by the newest, shiniest bauble...

In other words, if it's new, it's got to be better than what we've got now, right!

A lot of good cartridges have fallen prey to that sort of mentality over the years.
 
"Of course, a few good, new ones have fallen to "I've used X since I could wak, my dad before me and his dad before him!" too."

I'm reminded of the story of Elmer Keith at the 1977 Remington Writer's Conference when the 8mm Remington Magnum was unveiled...

"What the hell good is it?"

To be perfectly honest, in my opinion, there have been fewer than a dozen "good, new" cartridges introduced since 1950, and perhaps 2 since 1970.
 
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Mike, I would disagree. The 30-06, .45-70, .22lr, 7.63X54, and .30-30 are all around and kicking. If a cartridge is truly wonderful, it will survive.
 
the brass cased technology is about dried up. not much else left but propellant development.

Any new cartridges that have been developed in the last several years are simply media bombs. There isn't anything a new cartridge can do today that one developed 50-60 years ago couldn't already do. Powder development gives the new cartridges what appears to be a boost over their progenitors until the reloader gets to use that propellant on the older cartridges and make them into even better ones.

telescoping plastic cased ammunition will be the future.
 
The .45-70 was deader than a doornail for close to 50 or so years until people "rediscovered it" due in large part to the Civil War, Bicentennial, and Indian Wars anniversaries.

It took the CASS games to breath a spark of life back into cartridges like the .38-40 and .44-40, among others.

The 7.62x54, and a lot of other European military cartridges, are alive and kicking right now largely because the Eastern Bloc opened their arsenals and flooded the United States with robust, but far from excellent, guns and unbelievable amounts of cheap ammo.

Americans love a bargain.

But a prime example of an exceptional cartridge that has largely fallen by the wayside is the aforementioned .250 Savage. None of the "replacements" that have some along since really do anything better than the .250.
 
Could one neck up .22-250 cases to make .250 Savage ammo?
Might work to feed a old .250 Model 99.

PS
I got my 23B dirt cheap because the previous owner could not find ammo for it, so obsolete chamberings can result in great deals on older rifles.
Hard to get ammo can result in some of these rifles having never been fired much, so bores may remain in great condition.
 
Mike, I do see where the .250 Savage has its place. I retired my .25-06 for a .257 WBY, so the .250 Savage does not appeal to me very much.
 
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But a prime example of an exceptional cartridge that has largely fallen by the wayside is the aforementioned .250 Savage. None of the "replacements" that have some along since really do anything better than the .250.
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Mike, Savage Model 14 & 16 are still chambered in 250 Savage.

Could one neck up .22-250 cases to make .250 Savage ammo
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Yes, there is a lot of good .22-250 brass out there. Winchester still makes brass for the 250 Savage. Remington is the only manufacturer of loaded ammunition for the 250 Savage, and they only have one offering (100 grain).
 
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I know the components are available for .250 Savage because I loaded my father in law up 200 of them last year from new brass he brought me.
 
I would also add that there were perfectly "okay" cartridges that were eclipsed by technological advancements and such and replaced by "better" cartridges.

Example: The .38-44 being replaced by the .357 Magnum.

Still not sure what happened to the Super .38 though....
 
.38 super is still alive. RIA makes a .38 super 1911 that I wouldnt mind having. Dont know about factory ammo availability though... I dont really look for it. I imagine its not too awful hard to find.
Armscor is making their own ammo now so they may load .38 super?
 
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Yes, the .38 Super has made quite the comeback due to it being the lightest recoiling of the major power rounds.

My question is why it left in the first place.

My local gun shop has a post-war Colt Government Model in .38 Super for right at $900 bucks.

I look at that gun and think of men like Melvin Purvis and Elliott Ness.
 
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