BREAKING NEWS: INDUSTRY COUNTERSUIT!!

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Screw Joe Lickspittle...he's a vicious, rheumy-eyed low-rent punk and dumber than nine chickens

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
Andrew Cuomo's dad, Mario, I'm sure has been guiding his son in his ill conceived and unconstitutional actions. Look for Andrew to be seeking bigger and better things in the future. After all, if he can use HUD for a non sequitur suit and keep his name and face in the liberal media almost daily, elective office is not far away. Demagoguery is alive and well in D.C. Andrew proves it.

This countersuit gives the pr*ck a well deserved swift kick in his political nuts.

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Safe shooting - PKAY
 
An open letter to Cuomo, Blumenthal, Spitzer, et al:

How does it feel to finally be on the wrong end of the gun?

Are the splinters on the staves of the barrel you've had us over for so long digging into your tender parts?

SQUEAL LIKE A PIG, BOYS!
 
Here is some interesting info on Cumo...
http://www.alamanceind.com/newfol~2/nation_31.html


At age 30, Andrew Cuomo was a dealmaker in the go-go days of the savings-and-loan industry in the late 1980s - and by the time you finish reading this article, it will be abundantly clear why the official White House news release when Cuomo was appointed never mentions his days as a precocious young bankster.

In 1987, Andrew Cuomo was a minor investor in an attempted takeover of Oceanmark Savings - an S&L in North Miami Beach. His role in the incident has spawned several lawsuits - at least one of which is still pending in Dec. 1999. Andrew Cuomo and New York developer Sheldon Goldstein - who had been fundraising for both Cuomo's governor father and Sen. Alfonse D'Amato - tried to do a hostile takeover of Oceanmark from the family that founded it, the Fensters.

The Fenster family sued Cuomo and those in his group, alleging that they were trying to illegally loot the assets of Oceanmark. Federal regulators ordered Cuomo and those associated with him to give up their stock in the S&L to the Fenster family. However, the Office of Thrift Supervision - the federal agency supervising S&Ls- refused to let the Fenster family see the exact order.

On July 9, 1999, Oceanmark was taken over by federal regulators in the first failure of an S&L in three years - on the basis that the S&L had a negative net worth. In Sept. 1998, members of the Fenster family sued Cuomo, other non-Fenster stockholders in Oceanmark, and the federal Office of Thrift Supervision - alleging that the feds had failed to force Cuomo to comply with that order to forfeit his stock in Oceanmark.

Other lawsuits by the Fenster family against Cuomo date literally to the start of his involvement with Oceanmark in 1987. And Cuomo's Oceanmark scandals literally trace themselves to his days as a young lawyer with a prestige firm.

Ordinarily, lawyers exercise a lot of care as to who they become partners with - both because partners in a law firm can be sued for any malpractice by just one of them in any matter amounting to the practice of law, and because partnership with a "bad apple" invites tax audits. This concern is especially severe among the - many - young lawyers with political aspirations, as Andrew Cuomo surely was from the start.

So what did Andrew Cuomo's choices of who to associate himself with when seeking work - and ultimately partnership - at a law firm say about Cuomo? He sought and got partnership at Blutrich, Falcone, and Miller; as with the many young lawyers with political aspirations in law school, his led him straight to a firm heavily connected to political activity.

But Blutrich, Falcone, and Miller was a troubled firm. One of its founding partners, Michael Blutrich, age 49, is now serving 25 years in federal prison for 1998 racketeering charges - from a case strikingly similar to the savings-and-loan debacle Andrew Cuomo is now being sued in, also in Florida.

Blutrich had tried to do a hostile takeover of the National Heritage Life Insurance Company with its own assets in a scheme beginning in 1990. In all, Blutrich and his cronies, some from his law firm - including fellow partner Lucille Falcone, looted National Heritage Life Insurance of over $24 million. The insurer - which had tens of thousands of elderly policyholders - collapsed in 1994.

Some of the stolen National Heritage Life money was used by Andrew Cuomo and Blutrich to finance a similar hostile-takeover scheme at Oceanmark Savings & Loan - the savings-and-loan debacle Cuomo is now being sued in.

Before the insurer collapsed, Blutrich used a $300,000 "loan" from it to start a high-class strip joint in Manhattan. One significant difference between Blutrich's crimes and those Cuomo is now accused of in a civil case is that - according to court records - Blutrich improperly used his law firm's escrow account money to facilitate his scam.

But even before that 1998 felony conviction of Blutrich's, what young lawyer with political aspirations would want anything to do with him - if he had any sense? Blutrich already was known as a pedophile - having plead guilty in 1994 to reduced charges after taking a teenage boy who played on a basketball team he coached at their YMHA to that strip joint Blutrich co-owned and then having sex with him, which was just the tip of the iceberg of a multi-year year investigation that got him charged with sexual assault on a minor. He also has kiddie-porn-related guilty pleas as a matter of public record.

Only the day before taking office as HUD Secretary - in Jan. 1997 - does documentable proof of Cuomo's business partnerships with Blutrich end. Until then, Blutrich was mailing Cuomo checks - addressed to him at HUD headquarters - for his share of a tax shelter partnership called L&M Associates whose three general partners where Cuomo, Blutrich, and Falcone.

Andrew Cuomo likes styling himself as a homeless advocate and now as a HUD secretary suing gunmakers - but it is time to tell the truth.

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If you want me to delete this and start a new thread with it, just let me know.

Joe
 
Just the launch of this countersuite of this countersuite is encouraging.

I hope the suite is winnable and generates plenty of shockwaves throughout the antis.

If clear victory is achieved, what could be the positive fallout for American citizens and industries?
Jeff
 
Wednesday April 26 3:20 PM ET

Gunmakers File Suit Against U.S., States, Mayors


By Lisa Richwine

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A group of gun manufacturers filed suit against federal, state and local officials on Wednesday, charging that efforts to impose safety measures are a conspiracy that violate constitutional guarantees of free trade.

The suit was filed in U.S. federal court in Atlanta by seven gun makers and an industry group against the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), the attorneys general of New York and Connecticut and officials from 14 municipalities.

"We are here to expose a plan that brazenly places political self-interest above police and citizen safety," said Robert Delfay, president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation that represents gun makers and distributors, at a news conference.

The federal government, some states and municipalities have been using legal action and police gun-purchasing contracts to pressure the gun industry to make weapons safer and tighten up on sales practices in an effort to curb shooting deaths.

In March, the U.S. government dropped its threat of legal action against Smith & Wesson, the nation's biggest maker of handguns, after the company agreed to install child-safety trigger locks and develop other technologies to prevent firing by anyone other than the owner. Smith & Wesson, a unit of Tomkins Plc (TOMK.L), was not a party to the suit filed Wednesday.

In the lawsuit, the manufacturers ask the court to forbid the defendants from setting any new national regulations that are not authorized by Congress on the design, manufacture, advertising, or distribution of handguns.

The suit was the latest volley in the battle between gun makers and the Clinton administration, which has sought to curb gun violence in the wake of shootings at schools and elsewhere.

"We'll see 'em in court," White House spokesman Jake Siewert, who accompanied Clinton on a trip to North Carolina, said about the industry lawsuit.

The manufacturers who filed suit were Beretta U.S.A. Corp., Browning Arms Inc., Colt's Manufacturing Inc., Glock Inc., SIG Arms Inc., Sturm, Ruger & Co. Inc. and Taurus International Manufacturing. The National Shooting Sports Foundation also filed suit.

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Protect your Right to Keep and Bear Arms!

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The media are waiting to see if they can get away with suppressing this news, or are trying to figure out how to lie about the suit or distort it into something it is not, or are waiting for a cue from the White House spin juggernaut. However, if the plaintiffs win, the media will be left in the dust anyway.
 
Screw ABC--there will come a time when this can't be ignored. Just as they knew and admitted from the start that the suits against the industry were unwinnable in any actual legal sense, they know they're gonna be screwed if the gunmakers get a day in court.

They were counting on public opinion to carry them past their total lack of standind and it wasn't there! They gambled and lost. This was inevitable from the day everybody but Smith refused to break.

No mercy.
 
""We'll see 'em in court," White House spokesman Jake Siewert, who accompanied Clinton on a trip to North Carolina, said about the industry lawsuit."

If Billyboob keeps shooting off his mouth, I wonder if he could also be named as a defendant?

Dick
 
I found the report under the Reuters Top News Stories:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20000426_3250.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A group of gun manufacturers filed suit against federal, state and local officials Wednesday, charging that efforts to impose safety measures are a conspiracy that violate constitutional guarantees of free trade. The suit was filed in U.S. federal court in Atlanta by seven gun makers and an industry group against the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), the attorneys general of New York and Connecticut and officials from 14 municipalities.
 
I wished they named Mass AG Tom Rielly and Govenor Cellucci. I hope this helps us out in Mass. I feel a little better now. :D :D

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"A true craftsman takes pride in his work"
 
All right, this is the first stand we've seen anyone take in a while. I suggest we call, e-mail the NRA, GOA and our reps and tell them to get behind this.
No sitiing on the side lines. If there isn't massive support for this, no one will try to fight back again.
I'm contacting FOP and LEAA as well to thank them and ask them not to stand mute.
 
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