brand and design superiority

Gun works? Shoots where I point it? Does not break with regular usage? Awesome. Good gun.

What's all this talk about brand?
 
What's all this talk about brand?
When you hang out at a place where folks discuss guns, folks are apt to try and get a "feel" for guns before they purchase them. On these pages, we discuss our experiences with the ones we've seen, handled, fired, owed, worked on, broken, hated or loved.

There's pretty much no way that brands won't get a reputation. And while quite often, many things may get blow out of proportion and exceptions will always exist, there is a clear and substantiated reason why brands build reputations.

If your short post was trying to say "I buy, I try, I decide", then I'm with you! :cool:
But if you believe that -all- the discussion that follows a brand name is generally in error, I'd say you're wrong, and very much so.
 
Oh, I think discussion is fine. I just don't it's reasonable or even intelligent to speak in such absolutes like "it's terrible because it's a (brand)". A serviceable gun is a serviceable gun, and I've shot good and bad examples of several brands. When someone says they got a good Taurus, there is no point in all the "Taurus sucks" rhetoric coming out. If the buyer's gun works, awesome. Little else matters.
 
This is a Pic of my Taurus 66 7 Shot 357 mag...as good as any Smith I've owned..and Smiths are great great guns...

Ummm. OK. My late '80s vintage 66 wasn't near the equal of the S&W 19 I picked up around 2000. So, it eventually got traded off.
 
Oh, I think discussion is fine. I just don't it's reasonable or even intelligent to speak in such absolutes like "it's terrible because it's a (brand)". A serviceable gun is a serviceable gun, and I've shot good and bad examples of several brands. When someone says they got a good Taurus, there is no point in all the "Taurus sucks" rhetoric coming out. If the buyer's gun works, awesome. Little else matters.
I'd say I can agree with all of the quoted text. And likewise, it doesn't matter how much that brand ____ is loved, revered and respected -- when I get one of them, it gets put through the ringer and I won't LOVE it until it's shown me that I should love it.

Even still, for folks that are brainstorming and getting ideas together for potential purchases, there's a lot to be said about spending Smith & Wesson money and what you MAY get for that money, as compared to spending 60-75% of that money and bringing home a Taurus.

You might get a darn good Taurus. I'm 100% that these guns exist. However, you might not. (true with ANY brand) It does become a matter of what your chances are... to get a really good one. That's where the discussion actually helps a lot of us.

If I -EVER- find a Taurus Raging Thirty, I'm going to buy it if the price makes sense. Nobody else mades a double-action swing-out .30 Carbine chambered revolver. If Smith & Wesson made one, I wouldn't buy the Taurus unless it was fire-sale priced.
 
When it comes to revolvers I'm a Smith and Wesson and Ruger guy. I have a 4" and a 6" bbl S&W 686+, a 6" bbl 10 shot 617, the Rugers are an SP101 22lr, a 9.5" bbl Single Six convertible and a 38spl Ruger LCR. In semi-auto I also have a 22a and a 15-22. My wife owns a Taurus 38spl snubbie which always goes bang and is pretty accurate. She can put all 5 shots onto an 8-1/2"x11" piece of paper at 7 yards, good enough.
There seems to be plenty of Taurus guns sold and I personally know of several folks who have Taurus guns and they don't complain. I can't help but think that Taurus corporate are aware of their reputation in the gun community and must work toward better quality control.
It's also kind of ironic that I have had to send 2 guns back to the manufacturer for warranty work and they both were Smiths.
 
On the subject of brands, it doesn't really matter to me. (Although my opinion won't matter much.) I like my little Röhm even though everyone dislikes them. I get a Failure to Fire every now and again but I heard that's to be expected of .22's, especially cheap inheritances. Like I said, I doubt you fellas care about my opinion though. I'm saving up to buy a new one eventually. Something in .38 Special maybe.
 
There is nothing wrong with a cheap gun as long as you understand its performance and wear limitations- and plan accordingly.
 
caracal wasnt considered a cheap gun. yet for want of a single steel pin, an entire design was scrapped.


sure the fit might not be 100% perfect. but its mine and its next to me. Im happy with it, and its enjoyable. sure its technically an L frame, but it cost so much less.

besides. its actually nice.
 
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