Brainwashed anti-gun teens...........

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scooter71

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I carried the bare, lower half,

i.e. (skeletal!, no barrel, slide springs grip panels, springs trigger etc....)

frame of my Beretta 92FS into a local non-U.S.Postal Service, shipping operation, called "Mail 'n' More" to mail back to Beretta for refinishing today.

I handed the frame to the teenage girl behind the counter, so she could package the frame in some bubble wrap and a box, and she accepted it like I was handing her a snake!

She held it between the tips of her thumb and forefinger, dangling it, like she was holding a lizard by the tail, with a disgusted look on her face!

I was actually afraid she was going to drop it on the floor, so I took it back from her, and she made some whiny comment about how she "DIDN'T LIKE GUNS".

I was so flucking pissed!!!!

I know it's probably wrong, but I actually stood there while doing her job, wrapping the frame myself, and halfheartedly thought to myself, that I hoped something bad would happen to her on her way home that afternoon, and she wouldn't be able to defend herself, because, SHE DOESN'T LIKE GUNS!!!! right?

I really don't wish this on anyone, but this brainwashed girl won't learn any other way, until she is victimized, with no chance for self defense!

I just hate that schools and the media are teaching kids to hate a valuable tool, that may save their lives one day!

I'm just disgusted by all the Political Correctness, Rosie O'Donnel's, reverse discrimination, and all the other things that the common law abiding gun owner has to put up with nowadays!!!!!
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I can relate Scooter. Recently I went through one of those times that I was sick of all the PC nonsense going on. I think all of us here have occassionally simply gotten burned out and tired.
There are times that I take incidents such as you described as an opportunity to educate and inform. Other times I'm too tired and disgusted to bother.

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TFL End of Summer Meet, August 12th & 13th, 2000
 
What you guys just said. I agree

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Long may it wave!

And yes, The Rock agrees with your sentiments.

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You missed a golden opertunity to educate this child of the PC Police.
For example, I purchased a "gun" magazine at a local supermarket along with several other items. As the "PC Stepford Child" was passing each item over the scanner she commented when she got to the magazine(in a condesending tone one would take with an errant child "Guns are bad" with heavey emphisis on "BAAAD"
I simply replied as neutrally as possible "Guns aren't bad. They are only tools that are sometimes used by bad people. Just like knives are not bad but are sometimes used by bad people."
He reply was "Oh!, No one ever told it to me that way before" her tone was one of enlightenment.
A couple of days later I saw her in the parking lot of the store and she engaged me in conversation about guns and why I liked them. We talked for several minutes and she said she ask her Dad about guns and he told her essentially what I had said to her.
She said that all she had ever heard about guns was what some paranoid teacher had passed in school and didn't realize her own father owned a gun. (Guess Dad thought they were "Man Stuff".)
Bottom line, don't pass up an opertunity to educate.
 
CoastieN70,

Outstanding!

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I run into the same type of sideways looks and remarks when I pickup my mail and parts goodies from the post office. The return addresses are sometimes rather reveiling. I informed them that an automobile is a much more dangerous tool if used incorrectly and irresponsibly. That I happen to be a law abiding citizen who enjoys firearms and believes in the proper use and handling of them. I asked if they had ever driven their car after a few drinks at happy hour. This got a few uncomfortable laughs. Then I explained that I would never consider touching a firearm after a drink, and that it produces a much smaller projectile with much less force than their 3 or 4 thousand pound car becomes at 55 mph. These attitudes are changing little by little as we have more interaction and they realize that I am not a crazed killer just because of my interest in firearms. The attitudes really started to change when the supervisor lit up one day after handling a piece of mail that I was sending to a firearms company. He couldn't wait to tell me all about his revolver collection. The empolyees looked shocked as this "Gun nut" emerged from the closet. Somehow the nice guy had hidden his fetish from them for years. :) Now other employees have started to ask about how to get involved in firearms. I use the term firearms instead of guns. It seems to have a somewhat less negative acceptance. Must be something sub-concious.

I recently moved into a new apartment surrounded by college students. Some started to give freaky looks and act like we were weirdos after watching my wife and son and I load the car with rifles, ammo boxes, magazines and hearing protection on our way to the range. We don't hide it. We're not ashamed, so why should we. Over the next few days the interaction was cold. (There's lots of opportunity since they are always outside having a drink with freinds. :)) Eventually we started talking about guns and my family's interest in them. I was shocked to learn that most had no idea what the second ammendment was and why. Believe it or not, many thought that it was illegal to own guns. I've been giving them an education in the constitution. I will be obtaining pocket size versions to give to them as gifts. None of them have ever read it. Now at least three are interested in going to the range and learning about firearms. So I shall take them.

This Saturday is my son's 17th birthday. He has invited four close high school freinds to an afternoon party. They are all going to ask their parents if they can join him in the morning at the range to see how it would be to join the gun club's junior shooting team to which he belongs. So far the response has been positive.

We have to not live in a box. Extend the invitation and the education. If we do not concentrate on the younger generations then disarmnament will indeed be a reality.

Another avenue to use is the fact that there are colleges out there with shooting teams and scholarships and you don't have to be a lifelong jock to be involved. I know of a couple, but would love to know where to obtain a list of participating schools.

The firearms community needs to be openly inviting to novices and those who have never been exposed to firearms. At present, dealers and publications are not freindly to the uninformed. The firearms culture
has for years been able to be complacent with the handing down from father to son. Well, now that's not enough. Remember when computers first came into the workplace and were totally foreign? The language, the feel, purpose, everything. Your boss said that they were a useful tool and that it would be in your best interest to learn them. Eventually you learned the lingo, and msdos. It was tough, unfreindly, but eventually the industry became more freindly to the novice because it was necessary for business survival and market expansion.

I was raised in a family with absolutely no exposure to firearms. As a novice, I found the firearms dealers and publications to be extremely unfreindly and uninviting. It was only through my undying determination to not be helpless in the defense of my family and the desire to arm my yet unborn future generations that I was able to persue. But it was not easy. Although the firearms culture is in general a great group of honorable individuals, it is not easy for an outsider to become involved in firearms. In general, the dealers use the lingo and are not tolerant of those who don't know it. They tend to do the opposite. Take advantage and rip people off. Not a lot different than the used car industry of several years ago. Many time the confusion and treatment drives people away who show a slight interest.

As the firearms community, we need to do the same as the computer industry. View our selves as a new and foreign technology. Become freindly and inviting. Educate the people about the need for this new tool and the need to know and understand it. Because to an entire generation, it is a new tool. By the way, make sure that they understand that it is legal to be involved in fireams. A lot of people today think that it is illegal. Open up, invite and educate. Be nice.
 
As I keep, saying, the REAL war of the anti's is against the "gun culture". Remove all positive exposure of children to guns, "pornographize" them, and demonize gun owners, and an ultimate ban/confiscation will be possible in another generation or so.

If we do NOT take a stand, NOW, THIS YEAR when the harsh light of publicity is on the RKBA, we WILL lose that right without a shot being fired. Sheeple LOVE to be "safe". And they DON'T love research. And they teach their kids what THEY know (for better or worse).

Coming soon to a child near YOU...
 
Dennis is absolutely right. Recently in NY state a bill was introduced called the "Child Protection and Welfare Act" or some Orwellian crud like that. The substance of the bill is that it would be illegal for minors to go to gun shows and into gun stores. There is a real culture war being waged by the anti-s.
We gotta bring people along one at a time. The best way to change an anti is with good manners and putting them "behind the wheel."
 
For a little bit of cheer-up: I was at my dentist's office, yesterday, having just returned from buying a new toy--an ADL in .308.

Me bein' me, I popped off that I had a new toy; they asked, "What?"; I sez, "New rifle". So, the four women wanted to know what kind, what was I gonna hunt, and how their husbands were just as "bad" about new toys, too.

It ain't all bad, out there...

:), Art
 
Among all my friends, I am the only one who is homeschooled. All the others are products of the government. Needless to say, they are all anti's. When I mentioned to one of my friends that I was going trap shooting that weekend and do everyweekend, she replied, "Oh! That is so dangerous!!" I intend to take as many of them out to the rifle/shotgun range as possible this summer and show them that guns are not the problem. Show them that guns can be "fun" tools when used properly, safely, and maturely.

I too am frustrated with the media. But I can't do much righ tnow to fight against that. All I can do is get red in the face, and mumble off how Rosie should be banned. But I *can* do something about individuals. I can counter the media's influence. Influence that is NOT based on experience, only detached presuppositional images through a TV, newpaper, or magazine. I can counter with experience. To see, feel, and hear how the media is improperly portraying the situation is much more powerful than any amount of red-faced mumbling. It is powerful enough to change minds back to the truth. I will be SHOWING them that their view is mistaken, and I'll be SHOWING them the correct view. It's as simple as that. And heck, is there anything more fun than a two-person shooting day at the range? I don't think so! :D

Ya see guys, it's so easy for us. Since we are right, and have overwhelming evidence to show we are right, we have to do so little! All we have to do is present the truth and evidence! It's a cake-walk.

RKBA!


Hueco
 
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All we have to do is present the truth and evidence! It's a cake-walk.
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My idealistic young friend, if only it were that easy. :(
 
Had/Have the same sort of thing happen. I coach under 10 through under 17 girls soccer. We were at a tournament in Houston at Bush Park, where there is a rather nice and large rifle, pistol, skeet range. Between games the kids could hear the shooters in the distance. When I told them what was going on thay all cringed and babbled off something about how guns were bad. When I asked them to explain exactly how they were bad they all answered My teacher told me BS. The older ones are even worse. I have girl who wants to be acivil rihts lawyer who does not even know the bill of right. She gave me a funny look when I told her that her homework was to define each of the 10 amendments in her own words for me. The last assignment was to look up numbers of people killed with guns versus cars in a given year. Very surprising results; for the kids anyhow.

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It isn't her fault. After all, she's a kid.

This is all the more reason while firearms owning parents must take the time to explain firearm realities to their children. You need not create them into your image of what a perfect firearms advocate need be- just familiarize them.
 
Hueco,

Coinneach is spot on. Brainwashing is a process that substitutes thinking with ideology. Evidence, argument, logic, hell, even the evidence of the senses means absolutely nothing to such a person.

We're talking serious thought control here, the fruit of decades of leftist dominance of the educational system, the mainstream media, the rise of the Progressive Caucus, and the election of our Rapist-in-Chief and his indisputably Marxist wife.

It's a tough row to hoe, and I think there will be a few upset applecarts before it's all over.

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On a lighter note.!! :) :)

Earlier today I went to the local metro food market to order the birthday cake. The cake lady told me to pick a design out of the book. She asked if he had any hobbies. I said yes, he's on a shooting team. She said "oh, I don't have anything with guns." Feeling a bit dejected I said "Yea I kinda figured that. Mention the word gun and all of a sudden your a criminal." The lady said, "Well, I can't say anything about that. My husband and son both hunt and my daughter competes with a 40lb bow. You bring me in a picture from a magazine or ammo box or whatever you want and I'll put it on there for you." Well, I went back later and dropped off the picture with the person on duty. She picked it up by the corner like a used tissue.(Picture of a shooter with high power rifle ready to shoot.)She asked, "Are you sure she said she would do this?" When I said yes she reluctantly said, "Well o.k. I'll give it to her. But you better make sure you talk to her about this."

Anyway, I'll be picking up the birthday cake tomorrow afternoon.

Oh yeah, all four of my son's freinds got enthusiastic approval from their parents for going to the shooting range and joining the junior shooting team!!! When my son called the coach to ask permission for the new members the response was,"Sure!!! Bring 'em on!!!!"

I think things are looking up!!!! :) :) :)
 
Hueco, I love your enthusiasm. We need more like you.....epsecially "working on the inside" ;). Your peers will be much more likely to listen to you than us.....er.....old farts.

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TFL End of Summer Meet, August 12th & 13th, 2000
 
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