BP revolver with the best longevity

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51_60_colt

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I was just thinking about buying another BP revolver and was stewing over which one to buy, between the '58 remington and the 60 colt (cause i might want a pair:D) which would possibly last the longest while requiring the least amount of replacement parts, it might seem silly but with the way things are headin it might be hard to get parts in years to come. Also...my 51 colt pietta navy's bolt is marking up the cyl. doesnt seem to fit right, I havent ever done any gunsmithing, how should i go about fitting the bolt:confused:?? Thanks.
 
Authentic or Replica 19th Century Rev built to shoot and last 1858 Remington NMA .44 or .36 cal ...hands down... :cool:
 
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which would possibly last the longest while requiring the least amount of replacement parts, it might seem silly but with the way things are headin it might be hard to get parts in years to come
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Hands down the Ruger Old Army. An excellent mix of 19th and 20th century technology.
Just about all the Italian guns suffer from spring breakage at some point. Hand spring, bolt/trigger spring and main spring. The ROA uses coil springs at seldom break.
I would not let that stop me from getting a Remington or a 1860, I've ended up with four of each;)
 
Thanks for the info and opinion. I cant afford an ROA right now so i was looking toward pietta, the remington is sounding good, but i already have parts and spare cyl. for colts, I'm makin this decision harder than it needs to be haha :rolleyes: I think I'm going to try shaving the bolt myself and use that article as a guide as well. thanks again
 
Never had a Remington break a Spring, I have broken pawl spings myself on intallation. Had one Mainspring breakin my time and it was a very well used up Colt Centaure made in Belgium about 50 years ago. It looked like it was shot hard everyday for 50 years too. I repaired that Centaure with a German Steak knife blade and shot 18 rounds out of it. I had sold her and got it back from the Master Centaure 1860 Colt Gunsmith who is a good friend a mine.
So even though I really like the ROA and have one in Stainless with a Convertor and one in Blued ... I gotta go with what I know, and them Rugers are a 20th Century Rev and xlint, but they ain't been around a 150 years yet;)
1973 Euroarms still kickin'
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28 year old E.N. Santa Barbara all original parts
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1860 Colt Centaure Rebirthed
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Cabelas has a sale on the RNA in case hardened finish...if i were to get one, can i blue it later if the case colors fade? or is it better to just get one that is already blued?

I've already broken a trigger spring in my .44 "colt" navy. I hadnt really shot it that much when it happened.
 
Well, that's actually a Forged Frame and although it made not be North/South War Against Northern Aggression 100% Correct ... it's a damn good frame and I kinda like it's looks ... you could blue it down the road ifin ya really wanted to, but if ya like it I wun't bother. Shoot it and have fun.

How much is the Pietta you're lookin' at?
Got a as New But fired (36rnds or so)with the box Stainless Steel Euroarms 1858 Rem NMA .44, $300 shipped.
But if ya have big hands get the Pietta at Cabelas or a Uberti...
 
well, its on sale for $220, my hands are a bit big but not real big, hmm...might think bout that euroarms SS you got....is euroarms easy to get parts for? Pics of the Rem.?
 
1858 Rem NMA SS Euroarms $300 shipped like new...
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Smokin_Gun: You do know that SS revolvers isn't exactly 19th century technology? Of course you do. :)

BP revolver with the best longevity
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51_60_Colt: If you are looking for a replica that comes as close to an original Colt or Remington as you can come I'd take a closer look at Uberti made BP revolvers. Pietta has taken the liberty of making "adjustments" on many/most of their models that make them look like an original but some of the specs are off. Maybe you don't care and maybe a ROA would be you main choice if they were lower in cost. I'm not pushing the ROA nor am I discouraging a 1851, 1860, 1858, etc. I have two ROA's and a Uberti 1858. From what I've read, in many respects, you get what you paid for with regard to Italian made BP revolvers. Who was it that said "Italian made BP revolvers makes gunsmiths out of all of us"?

However, the answer to your original questions is the ROA, hands down! That can not be disputed. So your question now becomes "Who makes the next best"?
 
Yup!

51-60,

you asked, " is euroarms easy to get parts for? "

Winchester Sutler in Winchester Virginia. They have a website with the phone number. There are probably others but this guy had what I needed when I needed it and he was willing to tear is barn apart to find it. (Cylinder for an 1851 Navy, which he sold me for $35.00.)

I have and ROA in stainless and if you continue to be serious about shooting (with the emphasis on shooting) black powder or subs you will eventually wind up with one. I would be looking for deals now.

Failing that I like SGs words on the 1858 Remington in steel. Strong design and strong metal. Although I would go with a .44. (More powder, more noise, more smoke :rolleyes:)
 
What Doc says about the Ruger ROA .....I never bought one untill after Ruger quit makeing them ...The 1858 Remington was always my serious shooters .
After shooting the ROA ...all I`ll say if you shoot alot and like to hit your mark ..............the ROA will spoil ya .....I still love my Remingtons and Colts ....but they are enjoying a nice break now ...I don`t think I can wear a ROA out ...I bet their parts dept is a lonely place .....:D
 
Cabelas has a sale on the RNA in case hardened finish...
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If you are short on cash I'd go for the Pietta made 1858 you've pointed out on at Cabela's for $219.99. How can you beat that these days? Note that as far as it being "an orginal" replica, once again, you can see Pietta doing things that do not make it period correct, i.e. checkered grips, finish, etc.
 
Cabelas has a sale on the RNA in case hardened finish...if i were to get one, can i blue it later if the case colors fade? or is it better to just get one that is already blued?

I've already broken a trigger spring in my .44 "colt" navy. I hadnt really shot it that much when it happened.
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If you change your original question from 'most reliable' to 'most reliable for the money' then I think the $220 1858 from Cabela's is going to be hard to beat.
I have both the newer Pietta and Uberti 1858, both are good shooters and the size is very close. You have to get a dial indicator out to measure the difference.
I think the Uberti has a slightly better fit and finish, but it cost considerably more.

Trigger spring breaking is common and you can get an 'upgrade' spring at about the same price as oem. If you have hand spring problems you can always have the Ruger plunger mod done (Colts only) that solves that problem for ever.

Color case hardening should not have a fading or rubbing off issue. This is not like some smokeless powder guns that use a fake color case appearance (Ruger)
The 1858 was blued in original form, I do not recall ever seeing photo's of color case hardening on an original.
 
Pietta's "case hardening" is a misnomer. It's just a chemical treatment, similar to Ruger's. Real case hardening is more stout but will fade with much handling and when exposed to the sun, according to Denny at Turnbull Restoration.
 
I have and ROA in stainless and if you continue to be serious about shooting (with the emphasis on shooting) black powder or subs you will eventually wind up with one.
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That's not true.
 
Thanks for all of your replys and great info, I've decided on the 1858 Rem. in SS, now i just gotta get up the greenbacks for it. BTW Those santa barbara Rems are beautiful, never seen one before.
 
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