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Earlier I wrote,
You made this statement,
This has nothing to do with the topic under discussion. As I've already written, It's a simple matter to allow only those officers who are proficient with a particular weapon, in this case the AR-15/M-16, carry it."
Earlier I wrote,
Actually 9mm with the HP ammo commonly carried by police officers goes through many more walls than does a .223 with the right ammunition. The 9mm HP hole fills up with wallboard, making it the near equivalent of hardball ammunition. I built walls on my range to demonstrate this to my brass.
I predict that we'll see similar situations again long before the zombie march. And I predict that we'll see hundreds of situations where a long gun is a better choice than a handgun every year.
Most LE shooting situations happen by surprise and so the officer is forced to use the only weapon at hand, his handgun. But many times the nature of the incident is known before arrival at the scene, making the long gun the weapon of choice before arrival.
I never had the slightest bit of trouble qualifying "with my pistol" or any other weapon I carried or had available.
johnwilliamson062 said:and most officers are not registered on a firearms forum...
You made this statement,
generalizing that "street cops" have problems qualifying with their "pistols." That is simply not a fact. Some have the problem but most do not.Not bashing on the street cops, but they have a hard enough qualifying with their pistols …
johnwilliamson062 said:This is like the 'I kept my AR running in Iraq, so every grunt can' argument. I don't think MOST officers have trouble with their pistols, but there are some who really should not have pistols in the first place, at least not live ammunition.
This has nothing to do with the topic under discussion. As I've already written, It's a simple matter to allow only those officers who are proficient with a particular weapon, in this case the AR-15/M-16, carry it."
Earlier I wrote,
IN FACT most officers find it far easier to shoot a rifle faster and more accurately than they do a handgun.
johnwilliamson062 said:Probably true, but not many of their handguns have the ballistics of a 223. 9mm doesn't exactly go through frame houses all that well. 223 on the other hand has a lot better chance.
Actually 9mm with the HP ammo commonly carried by police officers goes through many more walls than does a .223 with the right ammunition. The 9mm HP hole fills up with wallboard, making it the near equivalent of hardball ammunition. I built walls on my range to demonstrate this to my brass.
johnwilliamson062 said:I also agree the west hollywood card is overplayed. I think it is very likely we will not see a similar situation before the zombies/communists/mall ninjas, or even the retired mall ninja communist zombie hoard, take over.
I predict that we'll see similar situations again long before the zombie march. And I predict that we'll see hundreds of situations where a long gun is a better choice than a handgun every year.
Most LE shooting situations happen by surprise and so the officer is forced to use the only weapon at hand, his handgun. But many times the nature of the incident is known before arrival at the scene, making the long gun the weapon of choice before arrival.