Model12Win
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Anyone make a repro blunderbuss? Can't find one. Thanks.
Blunderbuss?
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H.W. French
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Sitting Fox has a neat kit as well.
http://sittingfoxmuzzleloaders.com/k-4/
http://sittingfoxmuzzleloaders.com/k-4/
Model12Win
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Not looking for a kit and I can't afford Wyosmith's work.
Model12Win
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I went to Dixie Gun Works and was not able to find a blunderbuss except the $3400 real one. 
You'd think Pedersoli et al would make one.
EDIT: I managed to find this one- is it any good?
http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket9.htm
To quote what they say about the quality:
Does that sound legit? It looks very nice and just like what I'm going for.
You'd think Pedersoli et al would make one.
EDIT: I managed to find this one- is it any good?
http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket9.htm
To quote what they say about the quality:
Does that sound legit? It looks very nice and just like what I'm going for.
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Do you want the blunderbuss for reenacting as part of a costume?
Or do you intend to fire it, and if so, how often?
If you intend to fire it, will you use shot or just blanks?
To cut to the core here....if you want a real weapon I would advise against the Indian made guns. I have had a number of them come through my shop from customers asking me to improve them in various ways and in many cases there is not much I can do to help. They are a LONG way from a good quality well made gun. For costume or occasional firing of blanks they are ok I guess.
I have a friend who has 3 different Indian guns, a Brown Bess, a trade gun and a blunderbuss. None of them are good enough to shoot in a trail walk and none of them are reliable enough to fire all the time. LOTS of misfires, but for parades and costume reenactments that is no a big deal. He did fire the Bess a few times with a ball and the stock split (the reason he brought it to me)
He asked me if I could "tighten up" the barrel in his trade gun too. It was over-inlet with big gaps, so I used shims and Acra-glass to make the barrel stay in place. That took care of the loose barrel, and I case hardened the frizzen which helped a lot in making the thing fire, but it is still so-so. It fires about 8 time in 10.
"is it any good" was the question.
I would answer that question with a question.
Good for what?
If you want something as a prop, or part of a costume it's fine.
If you want something to fire blanks it will be ok most of the time.
If you want a real weapon? No!
Or do you intend to fire it, and if so, how often?
If you intend to fire it, will you use shot or just blanks?
To cut to the core here....if you want a real weapon I would advise against the Indian made guns. I have had a number of them come through my shop from customers asking me to improve them in various ways and in many cases there is not much I can do to help. They are a LONG way from a good quality well made gun. For costume or occasional firing of blanks they are ok I guess.
I have a friend who has 3 different Indian guns, a Brown Bess, a trade gun and a blunderbuss. None of them are good enough to shoot in a trail walk and none of them are reliable enough to fire all the time. LOTS of misfires, but for parades and costume reenactments that is no a big deal. He did fire the Bess a few times with a ball and the stock split (the reason he brought it to me)
He asked me if I could "tighten up" the barrel in his trade gun too. It was over-inlet with big gaps, so I used shims and Acra-glass to make the barrel stay in place. That took care of the loose barrel, and I case hardened the frizzen which helped a lot in making the thing fire, but it is still so-so. It fires about 8 time in 10.
"is it any good" was the question.
I would answer that question with a question.
Good for what?
If you want something as a prop, or part of a costume it's fine.
If you want something to fire blanks it will be ok most of the time.
If you want a real weapon? No!
Model12Win
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Oh man.
I want one as a shooter, for fun range use. I will avoid the Indian made guns, thank you. That does not sound safe to fire.
I want one as a shooter, for fun range use. I will avoid the Indian made guns, thank you. That does not sound safe to fire.
How about these guys?
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/MSBB.shtml
The prices arnt SO bad, and it SEEMS to be manned by actual shooters instead of the "non-firing state" types over at militaryheritage.
IIRC they had a side by side flintlock pistol designed to their specs awhile back that seemed to enjoy some level of public acceptance... Maybe their Blunderbuss' (Err.. Blunderbi? LOL) are at least as good?
Shrugs.. I never personally dealt with em, so I cant personally say.
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/MSBB.shtml
The prices arnt SO bad, and it SEEMS to be manned by actual shooters instead of the "non-firing state" types over at militaryheritage.
IIRC they had a side by side flintlock pistol designed to their specs awhile back that seemed to enjoy some level of public acceptance... Maybe their Blunderbuss' (Err.. Blunderbi? LOL) are at least as good?
Shrugs.. I never personally dealt with em, so I cant personally say.
I would not say for sure, but I believe Middlesex is also an Indian importer.
You might just call them and ask.
Of course, no mater where they are made they are not going to tell you if the quality is poor.
So finding out they are made in India is not encouraging, but if they are made somewhere else it still doesn't mean they are good,(or poor) but just that they are made somewhere else.
You might just call them and ask.
Of course, no mater where they are made they are not going to tell you if the quality is poor.
So finding out they are made in India is not encouraging, but if they are made somewhere else it still doesn't mean they are good,(or poor) but just that they are made somewhere else.
M12, PM me and tell me what you can afford.
If you are not in a huge hurry, and if you are willing to do your own sanding and finish work on the wood, you may find that a hand made gun is a lot less expensive than you think.
From what you are looking at I get an impression you are looking for a good gun, but not a fancy gun. You may have options open to you that you are not aware of.
Let's talk.
If you are not in a huge hurry, and if you are willing to do your own sanding and finish work on the wood, you may find that a hand made gun is a lot less expensive than you think.
From what you are looking at I get an impression you are looking for a good gun, but not a fancy gun. You may have options open to you that you are not aware of.
Let's talk.
Yeah I think they some or all of their stuff is from India as well... HOWEVER, I also get the impression that they might be coming from some of the "better" Indian firms and that these guys are shooters who actually USE (and sometimes even design) what they sell.
I know the mean mention of the word "India" sends shivers down the spine for many, but remember that Palmeto was Italian.. Luckily enough however, that doesnt make ALL Italian guns Palmetos.
As I understand it, the guns from India that come WITHOUT touch holes are coming from the firms that are skirting regulations and giving India a bad name. In India if it doesnt have the touch hole then its considered purely decorative... Therefore no standards apply. Meanwhile companies that ARE making actual weapons and ARE proof testing are being lumped into the same category.
At least thats my understanding of the situation. I do think that this small company putting a WARRANTY on what it sells is a pretty goon indication that we may not be dealing with the typical shoddy and dangerous wall hangers we usually see from the sub-continent. IF I ever get the dough for it, that half priced Howda is on my list.. Pretty far DOWN the list (LOL), but still ON it at least...
I know the mean mention of the word "India" sends shivers down the spine for many, but remember that Palmeto was Italian.. Luckily enough however, that doesnt make ALL Italian guns Palmetos.
As I understand it, the guns from India that come WITHOUT touch holes are coming from the firms that are skirting regulations and giving India a bad name. In India if it doesnt have the touch hole then its considered purely decorative... Therefore no standards apply. Meanwhile companies that ARE making actual weapons and ARE proof testing are being lumped into the same category.
At least thats my understanding of the situation. I do think that this small company putting a WARRANTY on what it sells is a pretty goon indication that we may not be dealing with the typical shoddy and dangerous wall hangers we usually see from the sub-continent. IF I ever get the dough for it, that half priced Howda is on my list.. Pretty far DOWN the list (LOL), but still ON it at least...
Ahh...ok... Did NOT know that!
Hmm... You may have just saved me quite a bit (for me anyway) of money. I did see where he stated that they almost always need the frizzen hardened, but that alone seems a pretty trivial reason for a report to BBB. I absolutely will dig much deeper before spending anything there..
I was thinking more along the lines of the Jukar vs. Dikar thing from Spain... At least thats what it seemed like. A situation of one company putting out cheap, barely shootable crap (jukar) as opposed to the other (dikar) putting out cheap sometimes DANGEROUS to shoot crap. In the end ALL the Spanish stuff got a bad rep, but ive seen lots of Jukar that I would shoot with lighter loads.
Hmm... You may have just saved me quite a bit (for me anyway) of money. I did see where he stated that they almost always need the frizzen hardened, but that alone seems a pretty trivial reason for a report to BBB. I absolutely will dig much deeper before spending anything there..
I was thinking more along the lines of the Jukar vs. Dikar thing from Spain... At least thats what it seemed like. A situation of one company putting out cheap, barely shootable crap (jukar) as opposed to the other (dikar) putting out cheap sometimes DANGEROUS to shoot crap. In the end ALL the Spanish stuff got a bad rep, but ive seen lots of Jukar that I would shoot with lighter loads.