jeff_troop
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and who is surprised? not me. just another tactic in getting the government to handle their financial woes for them.
black hurricane survivors cry racism
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Yes.
But, please also show that white people are involved also, Blacks were not the only ones in the 9th Ward. In the South we called them White Trash, I'm white, I'm allowed.
I still wonder about the testimony of "I heard loud BOOMS" but I didn't see anything
I would gather, from my weak intelligence and thought processes, that a dam giving way to tons of water may make a couple of loud BOOMS as it buckles under the weight of the water.
But hey, I'm not bucking for a free house and money for life now am I.
Wayne
Yes.
But, please also show that white people are involved also, Blacks were not the only ones in the 9th Ward. In the South we called them White Trash, I'm white, I'm allowed.
I still wonder about the testimony of "I heard loud BOOMS" but I didn't see anything
I would gather, from my weak intelligence and thought processes, that a dam giving way to tons of water may make a couple of loud BOOMS as it buckles under the weight of the water.
But hey, I'm not bucking for a free house and money for life now am I.
Wayne
TheeBadOne
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Personaly, I would have gotten farther in life if people hadn't had it out for me...
TheBluesMan
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Got link?
TBM,
I just heard about the booms and such on Fox News, radio version, so I don't have links.
I think it was on CSPAN also, congressional panel or whatnot.
I just wanted to point out that it's not only Blacks that live in the 9th, there are Whites also, didn't want this to become a racial thread.
Wayne
I just heard about the booms and such on Fox News, radio version, so I don't have links.
I think it was on CSPAN also, congressional panel or whatnot.
I just wanted to point out that it's not only Blacks that live in the 9th, there are Whites also, didn't want this to become a racial thread.
Wayne
jeff_troop
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the blacks are crying racism. not the whites.
bluesman it was on every news progam i watched tonight and on the internet. for this you need a link?
bluesman it was on every news progam i watched tonight and on the internet. for this you need a link?
jeff_troop
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yeah, here is your link which clearly states "black survivors" are comparing themselves to the holocaust. :barf:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/06/katrina/main1101473.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/06/katrina/main1101473.shtml
IndianaDean
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I think there was a prejudice involved in the slow responses. Not against blacks however, but against poor people in general.
Consider this...
They are not to blame for their twisted mentality...
We are to blame and have been so, since the Socialist FDR days....
We have failed them (and ourselves) because neither they, nor we, have learned a damned thing about their dignity and their self respect...
Why don't they have it?
Because we have bought them off...
They are not to blame for their twisted mentality...
We are to blame and have been so, since the Socialist FDR days....
We have failed them (and ourselves) because neither they, nor we, have learned a damned thing about their dignity and their self respect...
Why don't they have it?
Because we have bought them off...
jeff_troop
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okay redworm, you nailed me on semantics. 
i will adjust to suit your sensitivity since you were so naive as to think i meant every black person on the planet was involved. :barf:
- some blacks, who feel they represent all blacks in the no area, are crying racism in regards to the katrina relief effort.
i will adjust to suit your sensitivity since you were so naive as to think i meant every black person on the planet was involved. :barf:
- some blacks, who feel they represent all blacks in the no area, are crying racism in regards to the katrina relief effort.
It's sort of hard to blame them for being suspicious after the government dynamited a levee near New Orleans in 1927...
www.mvn.usace.army.mil/pao/RELEASES/02-06_1927_Flood_Anniversary2.htm
"On April 29, 1927, at a place called Caernarvon, La., 13 miles below Canal Street, in New Orleans, La., 39 tons of dynamite was used to crevasse the levee, sending 250,000 cubic feet of water per second through a fur-rich, tall-grass marshland.
New Orleans escaped serious damage, but the diversion annihilated much of the marsh traditionally trapped by the Canary Islanders whose 18th century fore parents had colonized Louisiana for Spain."
- from an Army Corps of Engineers Press Release
www.mvn.usace.army.mil/pao/RELEASES/02-06_1927_Flood_Anniversary2.htm
"On April 29, 1927, at a place called Caernarvon, La., 13 miles below Canal Street, in New Orleans, La., 39 tons of dynamite was used to crevasse the levee, sending 250,000 cubic feet of water per second through a fur-rich, tall-grass marshland.
New Orleans escaped serious damage, but the diversion annihilated much of the marsh traditionally trapped by the Canary Islanders whose 18th century fore parents had colonized Louisiana for Spain."
- from an Army Corps of Engineers Press Release
What happened in 1929 didn't result in the destruction of homes and property. Phrases taken out of context from 55 year old documents are a poor way to actually explain something that happened. Why don't we just explain WWII by quoting the news medias coverage of Hiroshima?
While I have to agree that not everyone who is black is racist, or uses the race card, the silence of those who don't is deafening. Other Americans are quick to publicly point out errors and biased statements of other groups. However, the black population, and it's "leadership" seem to regard objecting to the actions of other blacks as a form of racial treason.
There are a huge group of people who live in the 9th Ward. They consist of many races, and the majority of them are just trying to get on with their lives. That a few, many of whom don't live there, are promoting this type of deviant behavior is demeaning to those who are struggling to succeed.
While I have to agree that not everyone who is black is racist, or uses the race card, the silence of those who don't is deafening. Other Americans are quick to publicly point out errors and biased statements of other groups. However, the black population, and it's "leadership" seem to regard objecting to the actions of other blacks as a form of racial treason.
There are a huge group of people who live in the 9th Ward. They consist of many races, and the majority of them are just trying to get on with their lives. That a few, many of whom don't live there, are promoting this type of deviant behavior is demeaning to those who are struggling to succeed.
"What happened in 1929 didn't result in the destruction of homes and property. Phrases taken out of context from 55 year old documents are a poor way to actually explain something that happened."
They dynamited the levee in 1927, not 1929.
Next, the Press Release was dated March 12, 2002.
And lastly, homes were destroyed and people did die.
Did you even read my post or the Army Corps of Engineers Press Release before cutting loose with the criticism?
Sheesh.
John
They dynamited the levee in 1927, not 1929.
Next, the Press Release was dated March 12, 2002.
And lastly, homes were destroyed and people did die.
Did you even read my post or the Army Corps of Engineers Press Release before cutting loose with the criticism?
Sheesh.
John
John, there is no report in your reference to anyone dying in the dynamited section, or it's follow-on. There is mention of 250 people dying in all three of the floods during that year, in all of the flooded areas. There is no specific mention of the Caernavon, La. death toll.
There is also a reference as to WHY the levee was dynamited at that location, which, of course was left out of the rant. While this news article was released in 2002, it has no new information. It is a paraphrasing of the 1927 floods reports. There is zero reference in it to any racist actions, an inference drawn only by you.
What I objected to, and still do, is the attempt to use material drawn out of context to support a particular point. The post is about New Orleans residents claiming racism.
The quote you made was :"It's sort of hard to blame them for being suspicious after the government dynamited a levee near New Orleans in 1927...".
My original point was that the report has zero mention of racist motives, and that your use of it to support the contention that the government somehow caused the levees to fail due to racist motives is without merit.
Sheesh right back at you, sir.
There is also a reference as to WHY the levee was dynamited at that location, which, of course was left out of the rant. While this news article was released in 2002, it has no new information. It is a paraphrasing of the 1927 floods reports. There is zero reference in it to any racist actions, an inference drawn only by you.
What I objected to, and still do, is the attempt to use material drawn out of context to support a particular point. The post is about New Orleans residents claiming racism.
The quote you made was :"It's sort of hard to blame them for being suspicious after the government dynamited a levee near New Orleans in 1927...".
My original point was that the report has zero mention of racist motives, and that your use of it to support the contention that the government somehow caused the levees to fail due to racist motives is without merit.
Sheesh right back at you, sir.
"There is zero reference in it to any racist actions, an inference drawn only by you."
Huh?
All I said was that I could understand the folks in that area being suspicious of the government using explosives on the levees because they'd done it before.
"...and that your use of it to support the contention that the government somehow caused the levees to fail due to racist motives..."
I in no way supported the contention that anything was due to racist motives. Once again, I said that I could see how the folks in the area might be a tad suspicious. Understand yet?
Please try reading what I write without reading your own meaning into it. Thank you.
John
Huh?
All I said was that I could understand the folks in that area being suspicious of the government using explosives on the levees because they'd done it before.
"...and that your use of it to support the contention that the government somehow caused the levees to fail due to racist motives..."
I in no way supported the contention that anything was due to racist motives. Once again, I said that I could see how the folks in the area might be a tad suspicious. Understand yet?
Please try reading what I write without reading your own meaning into it. Thank you.
John
I like the fact that FEMA workers were told not to wear anything that would identify them as FEMA employees. FEMA employees were being assaulted in N.O. That makes a lot of sense complain about the lack of help and when it shows up assault them. Can't make anyone happy They say we should pull out of iraq hell we should pull out of New Orleans.
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