Birdshot as home defense round
- Thread starter Kevan
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Bud, the Winchester Defender, according to Aguila's website, is the only shotgun the mini-shells will reliably work in without modification. I'm going to try some of those, too, just to say I've tried them. But for home defense, I'm using 00 buck with an eye to #1 buck as the first two rounds if I like what I see from my pattern.
Kevan I was part of that discussion in the general discussion folder abouy birdshot. People were claiming that shooting someone with birdshot at point blank range had virtually zero effect on the person.
Some poster claimed that a police officer said that he never someone stopped after being shot by a shotgun
I tried to explain why that isn't true. But do they listen to me? Nooooooooooo.
Michael
Some poster claimed that a police officer said that he never someone stopped after being shot by a shotgun
I tried to explain why that isn't true. But do they listen to me? Nooooooooooo.
Michael
Aguila = less pain...
...to my shoulders, I suppose, what with the supposed 20-ga. kick factor to it. I've had both shoulders injured, one in a motorcycle wreck (one of many- bike's been gone for 12 years now!) and one from playing basketball (a jerk nearly jerked it out of socket!). Since I'm able to shoot both left- and right-handed, this is important to me. Of course, in the "heat of the moment", adrenaline would take over and a home defender wouldn't feel anything until after things have calmed down, BUT, I wouldn't want to be in pain IF there's any chance of the perp coming back on me!
Hopefully, I'll be able to shoot & pattern the Defender this or next weekend. Work's precluded much shooting lately. I'll also go to Aguila's website & check it out, re: mods to other guns. Interesting, thanks!
...to my shoulders, I suppose, what with the supposed 20-ga. kick factor to it. I've had both shoulders injured, one in a motorcycle wreck (one of many- bike's been gone for 12 years now!) and one from playing basketball (a jerk nearly jerked it out of socket!). Since I'm able to shoot both left- and right-handed, this is important to me. Of course, in the "heat of the moment", adrenaline would take over and a home defender wouldn't feel anything until after things have calmed down, BUT, I wouldn't want to be in pain IF there's any chance of the perp coming back on me!
Hopefully, I'll be able to shoot & pattern the Defender this or next weekend. Work's precluded much shooting lately. I'll also go to Aguila's website & check it out, re: mods to other guns. Interesting, thanks!
Good article Kevan.
Last night, I was in Wally World picking up some cleaning supplies, and I noted a rather funny looking kid hovering over the shotshells. He had a discernable limp, and his arm was in a cast. His nearby buddy was, in my parlance, "a punk." Hat pulled down and canted sideways, pants falling off his ass, t-shirt about five sizes too big. Both of them had these goofy grins on their faces like they'd just dropped acid over in the toy section.
Anyway, the kid with the broken arm picks up a box of #8 Winchester shells (2 3/4") and asks one of the clerks in an odd tone, "Could I kill a deer with this?" I couldn't hear what the clerk muttered to him, but the kid decided to buy the shells. At the counter (now closer to me), he asked the other checkout clerk, "What are these used for?" The clerk tumbles them around in his hands for a minute and replies, "Pretty much anything, I guess." Mr. Broken Arm gave his buddy a little grin and mumbled, "Well, maybe they'll work." He paid, and they left with the #8s.
My initial impulse was to pull the young man aside and lecture him on the proper shell selection depending on his gun and the range he wanted to shoot. But my bull**** radar had already long gone off, and I got the distinct impression that neither of these young fellows had ever seen the deer woods. They just didn't seem "quite right," and I wasn't sure that deer were the intended targets of these shells. So I just kept my mouth shut, watched the clerks in their grand ineptitude, and then paid for my supplies.
This fall, one deer may feel the slight tap on his back from some #8 shot fired at 100 yards and be glad of my silence. Who knows?
Last night, I was in Wally World picking up some cleaning supplies, and I noted a rather funny looking kid hovering over the shotshells. He had a discernable limp, and his arm was in a cast. His nearby buddy was, in my parlance, "a punk." Hat pulled down and canted sideways, pants falling off his ass, t-shirt about five sizes too big. Both of them had these goofy grins on their faces like they'd just dropped acid over in the toy section.
Anyway, the kid with the broken arm picks up a box of #8 Winchester shells (2 3/4") and asks one of the clerks in an odd tone, "Could I kill a deer with this?" I couldn't hear what the clerk muttered to him, but the kid decided to buy the shells. At the counter (now closer to me), he asked the other checkout clerk, "What are these used for?" The clerk tumbles them around in his hands for a minute and replies, "Pretty much anything, I guess." Mr. Broken Arm gave his buddy a little grin and mumbled, "Well, maybe they'll work." He paid, and they left with the #8s.
My initial impulse was to pull the young man aside and lecture him on the proper shell selection depending on his gun and the range he wanted to shoot. But my bull**** radar had already long gone off, and I got the distinct impression that neither of these young fellows had ever seen the deer woods. They just didn't seem "quite right," and I wasn't sure that deer were the intended targets of these shells. So I just kept my mouth shut, watched the clerks in their grand ineptitude, and then paid for my supplies.
This fall, one deer may feel the slight tap on his back from some #8 shot fired at 100 yards and be glad of my silence. Who knows?
lockandrock
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100yrds.... I highly doubt it. If they aim at the deer the birdshot will probably hit the ground before reaching the deer.
It strange I've heard and witness sports store ammo dept personal giving out the wrong and totally mis-info hunters. At a store ( kmart ) , the customer had a box of 15pellet WIN 00B and asked can he hunt quail with this ? the clerk said, " If you have a 12ga then these would be fine"
I said Hummm, I made it a point to catch up with the buyer and gave him my 0.02 cents on what he should use for quail and also as a side bonus, got a great location for a low coast quail hunt.